Problem-Solving with New
Middle Grades Teachers


A MiddleWeb Listserv conversation

See the first part of "Advice for New Teachers"

Also see our earlier conversation about first-year teaching

And see MiddleWeb's page of First-Day Resources

A month into the 2002-03 school year, we turned our attention once again to the new teachers on the MiddleWeb Listserv. John Norton wrote:

I know we have a lot of new and fairly new teachers on the List. It may be a bit early to ask this, but let's give it a try:

WHAT'S BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR YOU SO FAR?

If possible, respond in such a way that our veterans on the List can lend you at least a "cyber" hand. I know they're ready and willing to help.

John

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Christine finds her age is a challenge.

I have found there to be many difficult issues - organization, time management, lesson planning - but the biggest one I face is my age. I graduated with a degree in El. Ed. last year at the age of 45. I am finding that my team looks at me and forgets that this is my first year of teaching. They think I know things when I am totally clueless.

I was a stay-at-home mom for almost 20 years and although I have great household managing skills and time management abilities at home (can get my children at different ends of town at the same time), I am in need of ideas/tricks for managing/organizing my class responsiblities. I should also mention that I have NO mentor, no curriculum guide, and my LA/Reading cohorts are feeding me information on a need-to-know basis. We plan together for the upcoming week, but even though I have asked many times during the past three weeks about their reading list for novel units, they just keep putting me off.

Feel like I'm rambling ........ please forgive me ....... it's Friday ......... just venting .........

Christine

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Ashli's discovering what they didn't tell her about in teacher education.

I have a list of frustrations, mainly things they don't teach you in "teacher school,"

1. Copy machine 101

2. 7th and 8th graders can't walk quietly down the hall without grabbing each other, but the preK-5th graders can. Why is that? Why didn't "teacher school" prepare me for that?

3. How can you modify the curriculum so some students who need the challenge can get it (I have some students with a 115% average), and other students who need a slower paced class can have that. (I have students in the same class with 11%)

4. How to read/comprehend different teacher manuals 101

5. how to have fun with a class and not letting them "cross the line".

6. How to make modifications when an assignment is due and they need that skill to move on, but 2 were absent, 3 didn't attempt the HW, 3 left it at home, and everyone else did it.

7. How to drink water when needed from talking all day, yet manage to hold "yourself" until a convenient time.

8. how to organize students work that is:

late and graded

missing assignments

make up

graded and not in the grade book

graded and in the book, ready to go back

work that is needed to keep to work on at a later date

9. What do I do with all the memos that the school gives me?

10. It is the 4th week of school. I still don't' know everyone's name. They all wear uniforms, so they don't look different. Luckily, I am learning personalities quicker.

Well, that seems to be my 10 BIG frustrations. If anyone has idea, please e-mail me.

-Ashli-

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Cossondra grabbed the 'grabbing" question.

I don't know why but frequently it seems that way - at our middle school assembly this week, (long, hot , boring.... even to me as an adult) my homeroom wiggled and squirmed thru the entire thing - they were sitting behind the catergorical students who are emotionally impaired and/or mentally impaired to such a degree they are in self-contained programs -those kids (The ones who are isolated because they "cannot" make it in reg ed) were quiet, still, and respectful.....hmmm.. so much for stereotypes.

Middle schoolers need time to move and be loud. Unfortunately, the school day seldom provides this opportunity excpet in the halls.

Cossondra

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Someone else wrote:

If boy/girl hand holding is a problem - I walk up to the guilty couple and jokingly offer to hold their hands if they need that security in the hall. I told a mom about this once, and she said, "Tell him if he needs a hug or kiss, I will gladly come in ANY time during the day and give him one!" When I told the young man this the next time he as kissing his girl, he blushed profusely, and it was never a problem again!

Humor almost always helps :-)

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Principal Chris Toy tackled several of Ashli's questions.

Ashli wrote -- 7th and 8th graders can't walk quietly down the hall without grabbing each other, but the preK-5th graders can. Why is that? What do you do about it?

I think we'd need to know a bit more about how things are set up at your school and what the cultural expectations are there. It's pretty hard to completely do away with chatter and touching such as high fives, etc. I guess the staff and student government could come up with acceptable behavioral standards in the school. Then the staff and administration would have to be willing to do the work of supporting those standards. I think it's important that teachers be visible and "hands on" in order to support whatever is agreed to. It can't be a situation where everyone agrees to what is acceptable and then simply complain that "the kids were terrrible in the halls yesterday, I heard them yelling and running down the halls between classes.

The structure of the building and the schedule can help or hurt. If students have to travel long distances in the building, through narrow, crowded hallways with the whole school out at the same time it will be more difficult to keep things calm and relaxed.

Conversely, if each team has a nice common area that they tend to stay in there will be less of a problem. Also, if release times are slightly different it could reduce crowding in the hallways. Architects don't think of what traffic patterns look like when everyone is in the halls at the same time.

I learned this from experience. When our middle school was built it won architectural awards for its design, but it did not work well as a middle school building. We renovated it, providing more passing room, placed student lockers in team areas, provided larger common areas, quadrupled the size of the library, and many other updates. It's made a world of difference for us.

Ashli wrote -- How can you modify the curriculum so some students who need the challenge can get it (I have some students with a 115% average), and other students who need a slower paced class can have that. (I have students in the same class with 11%) AND: How to make modifications when an assignment is due and they need that skill to move on, but 2 were absent, 3 didn't attempt the HW, 3 left it at home, and everyone else did it.

This is a huge issue. It was put to me last year very clearly. Middle schools want to group heterogenously but often they teach as if classes were grouped homogenously. So there is a need to learn how to teach heterogenously, or to differentiate instruction. I'm sure there's been an archived discussion on differentiation of instruction.

There are lots of ways to see it, and even more ways to do it. To me it means identifying what it is you want all the kids to learn and then finding as many different ways to help kids learn what you want them to know. This means different ways of teaching and assessing. There are ways to manage this, but it is definitely harder than teaching to the middle and hoping you can help the kids who can't of won't learn, or hoping you can let the kids who are more able work ahead on their own so they won't be bored. It's a huge discussion and perhaps the hallmark of an accomplished teacher. It won't happen quickly, so be patient. Do it a little at a time. Beg, borrow, and steal ways to differentiate, then make them your own and your students' by making changes and adjustments to fit your style, your curriculum, and the kids' needs.

Chris

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Angie is wrestling with the challenge all new teachers face ­p; classroom managment.

I'm a brand spanking new teacher (8th Language Arts)...actually, I'm classified as a long term sub until the teacher resigns (looong story), so I have all the responsibilities of a teacher and very few of the benefits. I don't have a peer teacher or a mentor, yet my department is incredibly supportive...but sometimes I feel like a bother with all of my questions, as they have classes to teach and software to wrangle (GradeQuick, ugh!)...

The biggest problem I'm having is classroom management. I realize that most of it is trial and error, but I'm having a hard time judging the length of activities so that there's always something on the desk. Compounding that is the fact that I'm a roving teacher, and I wheel my little cart from room to room--so I don't always have extra activities at my fingertips. Quite a few of my classes are filled with talkies, and I just don't feel like I'm giving enough work based on the amount of chatter I try to quash.

This is probably WAY more than anyone needed to know, but I've learned SO much from this list in the short time I've been reading--maybe someone has a magic answer or two for me! :)

Angie

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Angie wrote: "The biggest problem I'm having is classroom management. I realize that most of it is trial and error, but I'm having a hard time judging the length of activities so that there's always something on the desk."

Angie -- There is no simple answer. I've been doing this for 36 years, and if the lesson is new I still have a difficult time judging.

Charlie Lindgren

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Chris Toy had another thought for Angie.

A short answer....See if you can plan activities that use their desire to talk together. Move between short activities that ask students to work together in various size groups, individually, then whole class. The time will fly by because processing is very time consuming. I bet the veterans here can give you hundreds of ideas and as many resources.

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Ginny has some organizational ideas.

One of the most effective organization, get-them-seated and role-taken strategies for me is having a series of warmups. I have one for each day of the year and often come up with new ones. They learn to come in, sit down, get out their materials and start doing the warmup on the overhead. They each have a spiral notebook and know to write the date and answer starting from the back of the notebook, for we start our notes from the front. Wednesday's question for all classes "What is YOUR definition of terrorism?" Sometimes we discuss the question, but often we don't.

My 7th grade geography classes have an atlas under every desk and most days there is a geography question or two and they must use the atlas to find the info.

Hope this helps. My first year in middle school became much easier when an experienced middle school teacher passed this hint to me. By the way, I did not start teaching middle level until I was 48. All I knew were "little" ones and media.

Ginny Berkey
daVinci Middle School 850 Howard Ave Eugene, OR 97404
Teacher Consultant Oregon Geographic Alliance NGSI 98

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Carolyn is a second-year teacher with new-teacher concerns.

This is my second year, but I still classify myself as "new". Of course, I have lost my mentor (you only get that the first year) and I am a co-team leader this year. So my list of frustrations are still long...

1. New uniform policy - I feel like the uniform police and it is the same kids over and over..

2. How to respond to a 13 year old when they say "Why you in my face?"

3. Managing the reams of dead trees.

4. What to do with a low level class who refuses (won't, can't) to do homework.

5. I still haven't figured out an easy, low maintenance, low time method of keeping track of grades and attendance in one grade book.

6. I have two classes that constantly talk. They stop when I raise my hand, but then they start right up again.

I could probably think of many more, but it is Fri and I am exhausted.

Carolyn Beitzel
8th Grade Social Studies
Beverly Hills Middle School PA

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Carolyn...

When a child says something like "why you in my face," they're hoping for drama on your part. They're saying it to shock you or enrage you or simply because they feel embarassed or threatened. They are most likely trying to save face. I would say "because I care" or "because I like you and want you to succeed" or something like that.

Leighann

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Ellen's responses to Carolyn:

1. New uniform policy - I feel like the uniform police and it is the same kids over and over..

If your administration has no system to handle this and/or is not enforcing policy, then there is little you can do. You time is much better spent on other battles.

2. How to respond to a 13 year old when they say "Why you in my face?"

"Because it is just oh-so-cute and in front of me all of the time. Now, can we return to our work, or shall we table this conversation for a later time?"

3. Managing the reams of dead trees.

Your guess is as good as mine. Anything important IMMEDIATELY gets stapled to the bulletin board behind my desk so I don't lose it. I HATE paper!!!

4. What to do with a low level class who refuses (won't, can't) to do homework.

Figure out WHY they aren't doing it, then create strategies to address it. Is it too difficult? Is it not connected to in class activities? Do they not realize the impact on their grades? Does it need to be more interactive, creative, etc? And are they really low level, or are they just lacking basic skills but thinking at a higher level? Sometimes we give these "low" kids remedial work which does not really meet their intellectual needs; challenge their mental ability, and address skills in context.

5. I still haven't figured out an easy, low maintenance, low time method of keeping track of grades and attendance in one grade book.

COMPUTER GRADEBOOK!!!!!!! Seriously. It computes your grades for you, prints out reports....if you aren't doing your grades on the computer, you are not using a very valuable resource. Attendance can be kept on computer as well especially if you have a laptop and your grading program has that option. Otherwise, create a table in Word and do a quick ABS if they're not there. Staple it to your grades at the end of the year when you have to turn them into the office.

6. I have two classes that constantly talk. They stop when I raise my hand, but then they start right up again.

What is working for me right now is, (1), my constant, daily reminder that I promised not to waste their time with anything that isn't important, and (2), the 10:00 club. Students/classes that waste my time must report for additional instruction during their related arts (my prep) time. This week each class has been listed on the board for the "club," but have been erased as they became engaged and cooperative. What has also worked has been remaining unemotional. It is not personal, just middle school. Find a humorous way to redirect---that really works with some of my hard core kids. I told one kid today that if he didn't stop talking and start paying attention to what we were doing, I was going to make him a toe jam sandwich. We all laughed, he got the point, and we got back to business.

This after seven years of trial and error...plus two years of subbing!!

Ellen Berg

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Carolyn responded to Brenda.

Brenda Dyck wrote: "The halls are 'electrical' at times. I know there are schools that turn the activity and interaction into a huge issue- where I am we try to not make it a big issue unless there is utter chaos. If we did we,d be like the wardens in a jail. Teachers need to be visible in the halls, not glaring, but mingling, chatting with kids and smiling. Our presence seems to make a difference in the level of chaos and dramatics found in the hallways at our school."

Brenda, can I clarify? In my school we have this same problem. Now I am talking 8th grade. Except, that the halls are so filled with students (our school was built for maybe 900-1000 and there are over 1600 kids) that when we do not maintain some type of order either someone gets hurt or a huge fight breaks out. It seems like it is more than adolescent developmental behavior, some of it borders on hatefulness and intimidation. Teachers are visible, but then they ignore misbehavior which sometimes escalates later in the day or off the school grounds. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have heard in passing (and cannot identify the student who said it), "watch your back", "today is it for you" and comments of the like.I do feel like a jail warden, but the climate is so volatile..We are supposed to start an anti-bullying program in the late fall, ,but I wonder how it will succeed. As admin. is not always the most supportive of changes.

Carolyn Beitzel

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Carolyn responded to Ellen:

Ellen,

re: uniforms, yes, there is an administrative policy, however, the teachers must implement it. So everytime I see someone not in compliance I am "expected" to take the time and write a referral to the office and they are given after school detention. The 5th referral is suspension. So what I experience is my feeling of "policing" the kids. AND if the child is caught by administration then they figure out what classrooms that child has been in so far and we get a "talk" about how we have to be vigilant, etc....I can see that this will start to escalate into written memos of records in our files for US not complying with the policy.

Example: a child made it through the entire day (I had her last period) wearing black pants (color complies), stretchy pullon (not in compliance) with red sparkly thread running through the entire material - you had to be right next to her to see (not in compliance), as well as her red polo shirt (compliance) untucked (not in compliance). Options - there really should not have been any. I should have written her up and sent her to the office. BUT, there was 20 minutes left to the day, her mother does not have a car so would not be able to bring her appropriate clothes, so she would sit in the principal's office and miss class time, and I was just plain tired of having to deal with it. SO what I did, was explain the policy to her, pointed out where she was not in compliance, let her know what her consequenes SHOULD have been and told her my expectations that we would not have this kind of talk again. Had I seen her earlier in the day, yes, I would have complied with the policy.

As a parent wrote to me : "The uniforms at our school are a joke. I object to them and am sad that UD fell for that bullshit. It's a Band-Aid. Don't fix what's wrong in the school, just do something so the public thinks you know what you're doing. The guidelines are so vague. Once the kids realize nothing happens, no one will really wear it the right way. Yesterday [my child] said she tried to keep her shirt tucked in all day till she saw other kids walking around with their shirts hanging out so she gave up trying."

This is what I am dealing with everyday.

Do you have any suggestions that I could politely give to administration that might help the situation? What I would like to see off the bat, is in the morning when the kids come into school, there are adult monitors at the door. Shouldn't they keep kids from being admitted and then bring them en masse to the office? Could the security guards (quite another joke) walk around to every classroom and do a uniform check and then take the culprits away? I dont' know...It sounded good, but is more of a hassle.

I don't want to put it in the wrong light. There are probably more kids in compliance than not. They look great. They have nice behavior. Is it the uniforms or their homes that are making them act that way? What came first, the chicken or the egg theory. All of the teachers have commented these first two weeks about how "good" the kids seem this year.

Carolyn Beitzel

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Carolyn followed up on Ellen's homework advice.

I wrote: "What to do with a low level class who refuses (won't, can't) to do homework."

Ellen replied: "Figure out WHY they aren't doing it, then create strategies to address it. Is it too difficult? Is it not connected to in class activities? Do they not realize the impact on their grades? Does it need to be more interactive, creative, etc? And are they really low level, or are they just lacking basic skills but thinking at a higher level? Sometimes we give these "low" kids remedial work which does not really meet their intellectual needs; challenge their mental ability, and address skills in context."

Okay, Ellen, let's see.

Difficulty -

Take the course requirement paper home, get it signed and return. 48% not returned

Cover your textbook. 44% not covered, even though I had covers in my class, so money was not an issue.

Answer 13 questions about yourself. Started in class and asked to finish at home. 33% did not return it

Now, I am not giving a grade for any of these, but the students are not aware of that. If they won't turn in something so basic will they then not turn in something of importance? Maybe it is too early to tell.

Level? I agree with you there. I don't think they all are really low, but have not been taught basic skills. So here they are in 8th grade, the last year with a team before being thrown to the wolves in HS. My question: what basic skills should I really be focusing on? Truly, I could care less what they learn about American history (don't hang me please), but I would like them to be able to survive another 4 years of school and (gasp) maybe even enjoy it a little. Is there a top 10 list somewhere? Basic higher learning skills 101? There are 27 in class and 5 special ed inclusion. I don't have actual math/reading scores, but I am sure they are at least 2 grade levels behind if not more.

Carolyn Beitzel

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Ellen had several responses for Carolyn.

re: uniforms, yes, there is an administrative policy, however, the teachers must implement it. So everytime I see someone not in compliance I am "expected" to take the time and write a referral to the office and they are given after school detention. The 5th referral is suspension.

I am guessing from what you wrote in your background diary entry that many of the kids in your school have been suspended over the years, so perhaps suspension is not really a consequence. Why does admin (and many other people) always think suspensions are the only consequence?

Do you have any suggestions that I could politely give to administration that might help the situation? What I would like to see off the bat, is in the morning when the kids come into school, there are adult monitors at the door. Shouldn't they keep kids from being admitted and then bring them en masse to the office? Could the security guards (quite another joke) walk around to every classroom and do a uniform check and then take the culprits away? I dont' know...It sounded good, but is more of a hassle.

We have had spotty uniform-wearing the past two years. Admin did nothing about it, so teachers gave up. Why bother when there is no good policy in place? We had parents tell us point blank that, "My child will NOT wear a uniform." So, this year we put the policy on the application so we would be able to enforce the policy more effectively. (We are a magnet school, but not like a traditional magnet school....we have mostly neighborhood kids and "wrong side of the tracks (city)" kids.)

What seems to be working for us this year:

1. Some kids are being stopped at the front door. We have extra uniforms, and students must immediately go and change clothes. We hold onto their clothes until the end of the day.

2. Our parent liasons roam through each advisory and pick out the kids with no uniform on. They must change as well.

3. Parent liasons are calling the homes of each student without a uniform and strongly, but politely, telling them their students MUST be in uniform.

So far, we have had few problems. In my homeroom, I have two kids who are waiting for their uniform shirts to arrive, so they may or may not be in compliance on a given day. I have one little girl who only had one shirt for the longest time, but her mom washed it every evening so she could be in uniform until her other shirts arrived.

BTW, for my writing assessment my students had to write a letter to the principal explaining why we should or shouldn't wear uniforms. To my surprise, about half of them were in favor of the policy. It takes the pressure off of the "have nots."

Hope that helps you!

Ellen

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Ellen followed up on an earlier note she wrote about classroom management.

In response to a new teacher's question about management, I included a description of my 10:00 club where I hold students during their related arts time for individual instruction and conferences. One list member rightly emailed me off list to ask me about doing this and the possible message it might send to students about the "value" of related arts. I am thankful she did, because it made me aware that I did not provide the whole picture of what actually transpires at Turner Middle. Following is my complete explanation of the collaboration between our team of teachers and the related arts folks (I am sure this list member will not mind if I share this with all of you in the interest of clarification :-) ):

EXPLANATION FOLLOWS:

I do understand your position, so I would like to try to explain the "whole picture". In our school, the core teachers and related arts teachers work in a "give and take" environment. All of us collaborate and work towards the success of our students. So, regularly, core teachers give up time to the related arts teachers if they have special projects, events, contests, etc. If a child on our team is having a problem with a related arts teacher, the child has to deal with the team of teachers....we have very active, open communication. We reinforce concepts taught in related arts, and related arts teachers are integrating core concepts and team units in their own classrooms.

Students struggling in our core classrooms are often struggling in the related arts classrooms because they are integrating a large amount of reading and writing. So far I have not had any "repeaters" in the 10:00 club because they understand that at our school, time on task and learning are the only options. Not to say they can't struggle, but that they must always be in pursuit of figuring it all out through asking questions, completing assignments, staying attentive, etc. Our team also collects the grades from the related arts teachers periodically and every half- and full-quarter. Students who are not performing at an acceptable level (C or higher) are pulled aside and asked what is going on, how we can help, etc. No child on our team could ever get the impression that the core teachers do not value related arts; we constantly send the message that mastery in all classes is essential, and no class is okay to "dog".

I realized I didn't provide folks with the whole picture. Our school is really becoming ever more collaborative, and we are all focusing on the same thing. I have had related arts teachers hold my students as well for similar reasons, and I have no problem with that whatsoever. When Johnny returns to my room with a note of explanation, Johnny and I have a conference about what needs to change in gym or FACS or computer or art.

I really appreciate the work the related arts teachers do. They have helped motivate many of my students and have figured out unique ways to teach concepts some students have always struggled with. We are united in our idea that all of our students MUST succeed, and we support one another in that quest.

If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask them. I am terribly sorry to have upset you or to have sent the message that I do not value related arts classes. That is most certainly not the case, and I work really hard to see that my students value and respect these classes.

I am always awed by our FACS teacher because she can orchestrate the kitchen and table areas simultaneously, no one gets hurt or angry, and the food comes out beautifully. I think she's got better management skills than any of us!

Ellen

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Beverly had some questions about the 10 o'clock club.

Ellen's solutions for new teachers' questions is sound--I especially like the 10:00 club. However, I've a couple of questions about that. How do the related arts teachers respond to kids being pulled from their classes? Also, if a kid has some sort of personality conflict with the related arts teacher, would he/she act out so as to be pulled from that class? One of our related arts teachers has two classes that are pretty chaotic and he has resorted to very authoritarian, punitive "classroom management." At least two kids have begged me to get them out of that class by requesting they stay with me for extra help (which they don't need).

Regarding the quieting them down strategy--I've resorted to something Dee Bench, a consultant and principal from a Colorado middle school demonstrated this summer; I thought it was pretty lame, but it works.

She says, calmly and in a natural tone, "Quiet Please, One." Then 2 to 5 seconds later, "Quiet please, Two." Then, "Quiet Please, Three." That gives kids a chance to finish a conversation and settle. It takes at the most ten seconds. Kids do it, and understand the difference between that system and "Quiet please," followed by the yelling of "I said, 'QUIET!" It is a very civil, respectful way to call the kids to attention or to make a transition from group work to whole-class.

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Brenda had more to say about homework assignments.

"Students are volunteers, whether we want them to be or not. Their attendance can be commanded, but their attention must be earned. Their compliance can be insisted on, but their commitment is under their own control." -- Phillip Schlechty, president, Center for Leadership in School Reform

In response to Carolyn's question about what to do with a low level class who won't do homework, Ellen suggested finding out "why" they weren't doing it. I couldn't agree more. Identifying the "why" will be key to finding a solution. I would like to suggest a problem solving tool called an "Interrelationship Diagraph". This is an amazing graphic organizer that provides a way to see beyond isolated events to the deeper patterns, connections and root causes that explain many of the problems that confront us in our classrooms. When you feel like old approaches aren't working anymore, this is the time to use this tool. I've used it to isolate "why" kids bully, and "why" the students leave the room in disarray. Equipped with this understanding you can make changes and form solutions (with your kids). Each time I've done this with a class I find out "my" contribution to the problem. Taking ownership of that seems to unleash the kid's to take ownership of "their" responsibility in the problem.

Here's how the Interrelationship Diagraph works:

Gather kids together and write the question at the top of the board:

"Why Don't Students Do Homework?"

As kids name reasons, write them on cards and tape them to the board (under the title). Try to have as many as possible. Here are a few that would likely come out:

Dance Lessons/Hockey after school

I have to take care of my siblings after school

My parents aren't home to help me

Too much homework (2 hours plus)

I don't know what to do when I get home

Teacher assignments are unclear (so I don't know what to do when I get home)

Etc...

From here you will ask the kids to identify causes and effects. Draw an arrow from the cause to the effect. So for example (using the examples above):

Because I have Hockey after school, 2 hours of homework is too much. You would draw an arrow from "Hockey" to "Too much homework"

Or

Because Teacher assignments are unclear, I don't know what to do when I get home. You would draw an arrow from "Teacher assignments" to "Don't know what to do"

You can only have one arrow coming off a cause, many arrows can go to an effect. Keep doing this until all cause/effects have been identified. Now count how many arrows are coming off any cause. Some will have many arrows coming off it. List them from the most to the least. The first four are top root causes of "why kids don't do homework". These are the driving forces that will have the greatest impact on the problem you are trying to solve.

I have often been surprised by the root causes that come out of this exercise. From here you can make a plan with your students. As I said before, the teacher will usually have a role in the problem (in the example above, it might be unclear homework assignment sheets so that when kids get home they don't know what to do, or their parents can't figure it out to help them). I have a few digital pictures of one of my Interrelationship Diagraph (the bullying one, I think). If you'd like to see them I can email them to you. Just let me know.

Here is a link to information about this problem solving tool:

http://relish.concordia.ca/Quality/tools/17interdiagram.pdf

http://www.questlearningskills.org/weblessons/definerelation.htm

Brenda Dyck

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Brenda- Thanks so much for all your thought. I too am the most disorganized person on the planet. I am trying to come up with a system that works for me concerning all those papers! It is slowly but surely coming along.

-Ashli-

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Deborah Bova described her school's school uniform policy.

At Raymond Park Middle School, our policy is called "uniformly dressed"-- no jeans or skimpy tops... and no shorts or capri pants, etc.

In advisory, our homeroom, teachers are to note which kids are not uniformly dressed... we write it down and give it to our grade level administor or we call and leave a message. They track the kids down by the end of first period and get them into different clothes (we have donated clothes and they are always laundered and ready to go-- we have all sizes).

If we have to do that repeatedly, we go ahead and have an after school detention... which is manned by the inschool suspension lady who comes to school about 45 minutes later each day in order to spend 45 minutes a day after school with detainees.

Our kids look better than the kids in our sister schools who have fewer kids on free lunch... by about 30 percent. Our kids act better -- noted when the three schools are at jamborees or gatherings for all three middle schools. Some of the high school teachers have commented on the fact that they can tell the middle school from which the kids originate based on the behavior

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Laura is a first year special education teacher with several challenges in the afternoon!

I'm frustrated. I am a first year teacher, teaching special education to a VE (Varying Exceptionalities), multiage class. I team teach with my mentor, who is wonderfully helpful, and we have an aide we share, but she is usually in my classroom. We share 3 portables- one is for life skills (primarily cooking), one is my mentor's classroom and the other is mine. She teaches Language Arts & Social Studies, I teach Science & Math, and we both teach life skills: so far school- to- work skills and cooking on Fridays. We have 30 kids between us, and we switch classes about halfway through the day. I'm pretty happy with my morning group. My afternoon group is a different story!

Our school has a set of 5 rules, the basic ones: raise hand, stay in seat, no teasing, hands etc to self, arrive on time. My afternoon kids are having a really hard time following them. Namely- they talk and get out of their seats a lot. I feel like my afternoon group is just a long a series of disruptions. I find myself yelling- but I'm told by some teachers that I smile too much, and my aide and kids say to me that I'm "so nice" and that I don't really yell. But I do! It's awful!

We are using sort of a modified point and level system- using lottery tickets, and the number each kid earns gets different reward activities each Friday. Some of the kids are responding well, but others seem to shape up just long enough to get a ticket, then they start talking again, and walking around, poking each other. Certain things land them in time out, and if they can't get it together in the room TO, I send them to the "Student Redirect Center" which is a quiet room where they work on busywork and discuss their behavior one-on-one with an adult. I haven't tried making parent phone calls yet, but I think that is what I will be doing next week. We also have an attention signal (like Harry Wong suggests), and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

I really want to bring joy into the classroom, and teach kids in a way that inspires and lifts them up. However it seems like a cycle has begun- they misbehave, I become negative, then they have more reason to misbehave, then I get more annoyed...

Does anyone have any tips on how I can break this cycle? I want to be more positive!

Also, anyone want to share some behavior/classroom management tips with me?

thanks!

Laura

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Brett had an idea for Laura.

I'd say the students who are using your system are the ones who can handle more difficult assignments. Empower them through exploring Science/Math in a deep and meaningful way (how...sorry I wish I had an answer for you) which will challenge them. Once these students who might be misbehaving because they're bored work hard to research, analyze, and find solutions to their problems then you might see a change in the overall classroom behavior. These students can play video games for 3 hours straight on end, how can they focus in yours for 45 min?

I just read an article on flowers in National Geographic. Have these students do a research project that answers, "Why are flowers so vital to our survival?" Once they discover that flowers can also contain fruit then they'll start to realize how important they really are. Just a thought. Hope this helps.

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Principal Chris Toy had some ideas for Laura.

A key to any plan is having the students AND their parents involved and buying into the plan.

Based on your description of how some of the kids are responding, or rather manipulating the token economy you've set up, there are some adjustments that might help it to work better. It wasn't clear to me whether there are both positive and negative consequences that are meaningful to the students. You mentioned they will do what is necessary to get a reward, then, when getting the reward, they act out. What does that tell you?

Take a look at the structure of the day, and of your program. Is it something about the morning and afternoon? Maybe the kids are coming to you tired? Can the days be flip flopped so you aren't getting them always at the same time?

Then there's a more difficult thing to do. Step back from your instruction and look at it. Is there anything you can change in what you do to anticipate and head off unwanted behavior? Do you have any thoughts as to what is behind it? Maybe it isn't working to do the same things in the AM and the PM due to the time difference. Or maybe it's just that the needs of the kids are different.

Chris Toy
Principal
Freeport Middle School

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School director Naomi Smith got back to basics.

<< I really want to bring joy into the classroom, and teach kids in a way that inspires and lifts them up. However it seems like a cycle has begun- they misbehave, >>

Try an activity choice time. Key here is Choice by students and active. Good instruction is the most important part of good management. Let them learn your subject through art, crafts, group projects, computer, etc.

Naomi

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Sharon had some additional advice for Laura.

Laura wrote: "My afternoon group is a different story!"

-- There's your first clue! My kids are wound up and tired at the same time in the afternoons. Is it possible to take a ten minute break to have a snack and chat time? The idea of flipping times with the other teacher is an excellent suggestion. Have you asked her how the kids are for her? If they are the same, no need to switch. If not, ask her what classroom management system she has. Perhaps you could reshuffle the kids if that would help.

Laura wrote: "Our school has a set of 5 rules, the basic ones: raise hand, stay in seat, no teasing, hands etc to self, arrive on time."

-- Sounds like those rules are generic to the whole population. Perhaps your students need something different. Perhaps you could use a beanbag toy or something as a symbol of who has permission to talk rather than raising hands. The student must have the object to speak.

Laura wrote: "They talk and get out of their seats a lot."

-- Maybe you could divide up your teaching time so they have short activities at their desks and other activities that involve movement and/or group work. I feel like my afternoon group is just a long a series of disruptions. I find myself yelling- but I'm told by some teachers that I smile too much, and my aide and kids say to me that I'm "so nice" and that I don't really yell. But I do! It's awful!

Laura wrote: "We are using sort of a modified point and level system- using lottery tickets, and the number each kid earns gets different reward activities each Friday."

-- Sounds like waiting until Friday is too long for a reward. There should be some daily reward or even more frequenteg. ten minutes of free time, computer time, etc. Canter has a book with a list of possible awards if you need suggestions. If you are using a point or token system, it is not horrible to take back a point or token if a rule is broken. I know we are supposed to be positive but there are natural consequences for not following rules.

Laura wrote: "Some of the kids are responding well, but others seem to shape up just long enough to get a ticket, then they start talking again, and walking around, poking each other."

-- Once again, if you plan your activites to involve talking and movement, you will not set up the power struggle.

Laura wrote: "I haven't tried making parent phone calls."

-- Perhaps, in some cases, you could set up a daily progress report that ties into a privilege at home.

Laura wrote: "yelling....doesn't usually do any good anyway (helps ME sometimes).

-- I use a stop watch and say in a regular voice, I need your attention at the count of three. Then at three I start the stop watch. The class loses free time seconds or passing period seconds. I use the "teacher look" at lot also.

Hang in there. Some classes are just difficult. Hope this helps.

Sharon in Seattle

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Cy seized the moment.

WOW...what a great time to ask about problems!

I just started my second year teaching. I'm assigned to a team of 4 teachers - two are new and the 3rd has been teaching for 6 years. I'm teaching, or supposed to be teaching, a team of approx 80 6th grade retained students. Some have been retained as many as 3 times. We can't offer alternative education solutions until they turn 15 ( a year before they can legally drop-out).

My frustrations:

1. Motivating the students ( I'm so frustrated I can't even motivate myself at this point!)

2. Classroom management

3. Curriculum modification

Teachers were told to modify the curriculum on an individual basis. I was told to ditch trying to 'teach' science to them and just help them read and write better as well as integrate math into the content. Math integration is no problem for me but I have no idea how to begin with the 'hard-core' reading that they want me to implement in my classroom. All middle schools on our district are using the Achievement First model of literacy. We have received no training or guidance on ways to implement this model. I they say is, "You have to have a reading center, writing center, process charts, etc.". What's the point of having all this if I don't know how to implement them into my classroom.

There is so much more to my situation that I want to cry. After school, I asked my principal if I could transfer or if he could 'switch' teachers so that I could leave. Of course my request was out of the question. I feel like our team was set up to fail. It has only been 2 weeks of school and I have already determined that this will not be a successful year for me. I really love teaching but when I'm in situations where I have no support I often times fail. I'm trying to support myself but that's not helping. I could go on complaining but that just makes me even more frustrated.

I had considered using the 'Layered Curriculum' approach to my classes but I'm not sure if that will work with them. BTW, I teach in Baltimore City School District. We are one of the largest school districts in the state with the lowest test scores. Our district is concentrating so much on creating new innovative schools that I feel like they have forgotten the students in the low performing schools. I just don't know what to do to pick myself up to return to work on Monday.

Cy

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Laurie had some questions for Cy.

Cy, Are there specific reasons your students have been kept back so many times? I think if you can focus on each reason aand address it that way it might be easier to problem solve. For example, if it's frequent absences, why are these kids out so much? Are they the main babysitter at home for younger siblings while parents work? Are they school phobic? Are these kids the ones that should have been cored but slipped through the cracks and have learning disabilities that haven't been identified?

Do you have a mentor? I am a mentor in our school system and I give all my mentees my home number and e-mail. We have all been trained how to problem solve with our mentees; going into their rooms to observe and help trouble shoot big problems with our mentees.

Asking a teacher to implement a program that they haven't been trained for is not only professionally insulting, it's just not fair! Are there any veterans in yur building who are familiar with these programs that they want you to implement? Maybe you can visit their classroom when they are utilizing it to show you how to model it.

I do know these first weeks, even the first month, is very stressful for all of us (and I've been teaching 23 years). There is always something new that the people above want us to do differently (my system wants me to test 3 kids by next month to see if they qualify for special ed. using a new testing program, but won't even buy the required tape recorder ("you can go to Radio Shack and buy it for $59!")

As for reading: I use novels that are about Gr. 4 reading level, but high interest and buy study guides at teacher stores with activities for comprehension. I find most kids that are at risk can decode but can't comprehend. Boookbag magazine has great ideas for novels with questions and projects. I'm not sure what grade you teach in Science but I can share tons of ideas that the 2 mainstream teachers I co=teach with use depending on yur curriculum. Most are project-based because the majority of our LD kids are mainstreamed and don't do well with reading and comprehending type lessons (do most kids?!)

Hang in there. I was actually thinking of leaving my job this summer and ironically teaching in either Annapolis or some of the other cities/towns near you! (I had a bad year last year and didn't know if it would be better this year).

Make sure you rent a funny movie, go out with friends, do something unrelated to school this week-end.

Laurie

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Cy responded to Laurie.

Most of the students that I'm teaching this year were held back because they didn't make the district standard on the CTB/Terra Nova Reading and Math. At the end of the school year, these students were identified and were required to attend summer school. Even after attending summer school and re-taking the test, they still did not fall within the 23rd percentile as required in the promotion policy. This is the policy for grades 1-8. There was a total of 20,000 students retained this year. Only about 20 of the students I teach had problems with attendence, behavior, etc that would have prevented them from being successful in previous years. It's almost as if they have given up but come to school because they have to.

I had a mentor last year. I won't have her again this year. Only first year teachers get a mentor. So since I'm in my 2nd year, I'm just out of luck. I have spoken with my principal on several occasions over the past 2 weeks and he keeps promising to try to remedy our teams situation. I'm still waiting.

Asking teachers to implement programs that they haven't been trained in is typical Baltimore City. Then when the 'Big Guns' don't see any improvement, they want to fire teachers. It's always the teachers fault. It's very discouraging.

I need ideas on how to get non to slow readers reading and comprehending to at least make it to the 23rd percentile by spring. I think even the 23rd percentile isn't on grade level. Ask your science teachers for good strategies for those types of students. Thank would be a great help.

Maryland is a great state. Montgomery County is a great district to work. They are very supportive of their teachers and take teaching quality very seriuosly. The running joke in the Baltimore is that if you're out of work with a college degree...apply for a job to teach in the city. They'll hire anyone. Sad...sooo sad.

Cy

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Kate shared some of her difficult issues.

-- Providing instruction which is suitable, beneficial, and challenging to a group of extremely different ability levels

-- Implementing active participation activities in classes where students refuse to work with each other or out-and-out ridicule each other

-- Resonding to the above behavior in a way that WORKS! That's something I have REALLy struggled with. The way these kids talk to each other is stunning to me. There is so little empathy for others. I teach in a special ed cross-cat. class (the first year the school has gone to this model), and you'd think the BD kids would be the biggest management problem, but instead they're the biggest targets. How can I deal with this in a productive manner without further stigmatizing the targets? One on one, the kids are usually OK with each other, but once one starts, we just have a pack mentality take over. I feel like I spend the majority of those classes just dealing with the behaviors (this is only a major problem with one group of students, but I have them twice a day).

-- Figuring out how and what to grade. In my reading classes, we do a lot of discussion-type activities. Other than chapter quizzes, I've had a hard time developing "grade-able" instructional activities.

-- Developing a behavior management system that works for me. I know that this is something that should have been in place for the past several weeks. I share students with another special ed teacher, and in the interests of consistancy (and in the absence of a better idea), I took on her behavior management system (basically a Lee Canter, Assertive Discipline-type of program). This works great for my teammate, but my problem is that I'm not completely "bought-in" to the program. My leaning is away from the rewards for good behavior systems, but I don't have any idea what to replace it with. You know how they talk about how, in behavior mod, when you extinguish a behavior you need to replace it with an alternate, more appropriate behavior? Well, I need that more appropriate behavior! I have Alfie Kohn's book, and I'm plowing through it. I guess I need to skip ahead to the chapters where he suggests his "better way", but does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks for any and all help...especially for letting me vent!

Kate

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Cossondra had ideas about active participation.

Assign partners sometimes - let students choose others -Rotate seats - choose numbers to assign partners - make it a game to choose partners so it is fun - choose 1/2 kids on class to choose a partner. (I try to choose all the difficult students or all the girls or all the popular kids or all the non-popular kids...etc... - this way they cannot always work with another trouble maker - girl - popular kid - etc...)

When they complain to me about the partners when I choose, I very unsympathetically say, "He probably doesn't want you as a partner anymore than you want him as yours. Good thing this partnership is for only one project." Then I turn and walk away. It sounds somewhat cruel but it works! They are so dumbfounded by my honesty and unsympathetic ear, they go sit and get to work.

Cossondra George

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Chris Toy took on Kate's grading question.

Many of my teachers have created a kind of checklist that they use to assess kids during participation type activities. They identify three or four key components they want to see from students as they participate in the activity. THey let the students know what those components are. While the activity is happening the teacher moves around the room with a clipboard. Each student's name is on the clipboard along with the four criteria. The teacher simply places some grading mark in each column as it is observed during the activity. In a class of 20 students I've seen the teacher do the whole class in about 20 minutes. I suppose you could tell the students what the three or four criteria are that you are looking for, but only assess one or two each time.

Chris Toy
Principal
Freeport Middle School

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M. Vallarino shared some cooperative learning insights.

Kate -- One of the elements in cooperative learning teaches students the social skills necessary to be part of team by having them review ahead of time the expected behaviors before the activity begins by using a T chart. On an overhead projector make a T chart with SEE and HEAR. Have students come up with the expected behaviors. They should include:

See- students working, students helping one another, students facing one another, students listening by looking at the speaker, students in their seats and many more.

Hear- students discussing their work, 6 inch voices, students praising one another, students disagreeing by saying I don't agree because..... and give the reason why.

NO PUT DOWNS.( I usually give them examplesof this: You greasy slime ball! You're so stupid, You four eyed blob, etc, etc, etc.

At the end of the activity you can have closure by asking them how they worked as a group.( 5 is the best -1 the worst ) and what they can do to improve.


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