A Conversation about
"Mosiac of Thought"

A MiddleWeb Listserv conversation

About 40 MiddleWeb listserv members signed on to MiddleWeb's "booklist" listserv to discuss the book Mosaic of Thought by Ellin Keene and Susan Zimmerman, which seeks to answer the question: "How do students become thoughtful, independent readers who comprehend text at a deep level?"

Ellin Keene contributed several messages to the conversation, which we've reproduced below. Prior to the conversation, listserv members were able to visit this page to read more background information about "Mosaic of Thought."

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The discussion of "Mosaic of Thought" began with this greeting from discussion moderator Deb Bambino:

Welcome to the Mosaic of Thought Discussion!

We'd like to begin with a couple of structured opening rounds before opening up to a more free wheeling conversation.

Please take the following steps to join the group: ( Think of this as a warm up where we're getting to know each other.)

1. WARM-UP -- After logging on to the MW Booklist address, insert "Mosaic One" as your Subject, and send a message with the following content:

-- Share a short story of a time when you deeply understood something you read. What were you reading? What's your evidence that your understanding was deep?

-- Tell the group a little bit about your role in education.

Let's give Round 1 a little time to roll out, say Thursday into Friday. On Friday afternoon, I'll post Round 2 for the weekend, after that, we'll expand the process.

I'm looking forward to joining you in conversation of this provocative book!

Deb

Deborah Bambino
Teaching & Learning Network Coordinator
Washington Cluster
Phladelphia, PA

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Then Deb kicked things off:

Hi,

This entry could fall under the entry "easier said than done". Choosing just one short story about my reading and understanding is hard, but here goes...

At 15, I read The Scarlet Letter as a dutiful sophomore in high school. I think I found it rather boring. At 30, I returned to school and was again assigned the book. This time I deeply understood the realities of society's double standard toward women and the images and lessons of the book touched me deeply. My evidence of my deeper understanding lies mainly in my memory of the conversations I felt compelled to have with others, pretty much anyone, who was willing to listen or talk about it.

When I reread the book I was making the "connections to self" that are discussed in Mosaic, connections I didn't have the experience or understanding to make at 15.

I am currently the Teaching & Learning Coordinator for a twelve school cluster in the city of Phila. One of my primary responsibilities, at this time, is the support for guided reading and comprehension instruction in the intermediate and middle grades.

Deb

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Then John Norton wrote:

It's a terrible cliche, I guess, but the first book I remember connecting with deeply was -- yep -- "Catcher in the Rye." When my uncle passed away suddenly at only 32, his mother packed up his books and sent them to me. I was about 13. In the box, mixed among lurid adventure novels and a few early 1950s literary works, was a first edition of Catcher. I'd never heard of the book (this was 1960!) and it certainly wasn't in my junior high library.

I was mesmerized by the first sentence: "If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap...."

Wow. And then, "...my parents would probably have about two hemorrhages apiece if I told anything pretty personal about them."

I stayed up all night under the covers with the flashlight. I read it twice. I read it three or four more times in the next few weeks. I had never encountered a book like this. How had this teenager -- this J.D. Salinger -- managed to get it published? How did he know so much about me?

Forty years and many thousands of books later, I have yet to encounter a piece of writing that electrified me like this book. I've just finished reading "Salinger's Daughter" and confirmed that J.D. is/was a reprehensible human being by most standards. But in a day when there was no Judy Blume, no Robert Cormier, no "The Wanderers", no realistic writing for young teenage boys, he totally excited me about the possibilities of books. And I'm still excited!

John Norton

PS: I've been an education reporter and writer for nearly 30 years. These days I serve as editor of MiddleWeb, custodian of these listservs, and a freelance writer/editor. My proudest accomplishment - giving birth to the S.C. Teacher Cadet Program, which for 15 years has excited high school students about teaching careers. (27,000 students have now taken the year-long "Experiencing Education" honors course!) One of the four national TOY finalists this year is a former Teacher Cadet. That feels good.

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Anne Jolly offered her recollection next:

A time when I deeply understood something I read? One book that comes to mind is "To Kill a Mockingbird." I read that book as a teen - during a time of racial turmoil in the South. I'd grown up in a small, quiet, homogenous southern town. I questioned very little about my life, my community, my society. For me this book was a revelation - the beginnings of understanding about the about principles and inequities underlying the racial tension. After finishing it this book I felt that I learned something powerful. I began looking at society through a new filter and questioning . . . questioning . . . questioning. I believe that this book jumpstarted a thought process that helped me grow into a better human being.

I am currently an Education Program Specialist with SERVE, working in areas of teacher quality, teacher leadership, and professional development. Until last year I was employed as an 8th grade science teacher in the Mobile County School System in Mobile, Alabama. Interestingly, I've lived in the Mobile area for over 30 years -- less than a hundred miles from the town where Harper Lee wrote "To Kill a Mockingbird."

Anne Jolly

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Ellen Berg shared her thoughts about some early important books:

I have been sitting here, staring up at the full wall of books in my office, thumbing through my mind for the "right" literary experience to share. As I think of one, my mind turns to another, and yet another. They are all linked for me somehow. Please forgive me as I share a few of my experiences throughout my life.

I remember laying on my grandmother's bed when I was 10 years old reading _Island of the Blue Dolphins_ by Scott O'Dell. I had just read the part where Rontu had died, and I was sobbing uncontrollably. I felt the pain of the girl, her loss of yet another loved one, alone once again on the island. I cried for Karana, but I cried for Rontu as well. It was the first time I think I really understood what death meant, the loss of it all. I cried for Karana and Rontu as if they were REAL, and I guess they were to me.

In college I was introduced to Thoreau and Dylan Thomas. I was captivated by Thomas' poem, "Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night". At the time it seemed to me to be a poem of fighting to the last breath we take, but as I've reread it over the years it seems to be more a poem of regret, of not appreciating life as it happens, of missed opportunities. For me it is a lesson to live my life deliberately and to savour the journey.

That memory linked me to Thoreau, "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately...and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived....I wished to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life..." Walden made a huge impression on me. It is the first real work I read that looked beneath the superficiality of modern life, that questioned, "What is life?" What are those important aspects? It spoke to me because it seemed to be talking about SOMETHING, not fluff, not superficial issues. I am someone who hates small talk with people at social gatherings; I'm always anxious to move on to the more meaty topics. Walden was meaty.

The final book that comes to mind is _Push_ by Sapphire. It is, at its surface, a vile, filthy story of the life of an inner-city girl named Precious. Beneath that, it is a story of how our schools fail children who don't fit within the norm, who are crying out for help everyday with their outbursts and behaviors. "I can see by his eyes Mr. Wicher like me too. I wish I could tell him about all the pages being the same but I can't," Precious writes. I think of my students, and I wonder if I have passed them by, have missed something. This is the first book that gave me a picture of what it MIGHT be like for some of them at home, and it gave me a new perspective in my interactions with children.

As if you couldn't tell, I teach 6th grade reading and language in an inner-city 6-8 middle school in St. Louis, MO. I am also the department chair, and I am currently investigating how to put a balanced literacy program into our school. Reading is a passion, and I am afraid that because reading has always been so easy for me, it makes it more difficult to be a good reading teacher. I am looking forward to making those processes described in _Mosaic_ explicit and conscious so I can be a better instructor of children.

Ellen Berg
Turner MEGA Magnet Middle
St. Louis, MO

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Then Trish Rubin wrote:

Yesterday

I see myself picking up a book left behind by my sister who had left for college. After reading most of the usual preteen literature of that long ago time, I was curious about this book, much bigger...more serious looking than any book I had ever read. Missing my sister, I became lost in the pages of her book. I think I was trying to get close to her. Instead I met myself.

It was the first book that asked me to make a sustained commitment to characters and to a story. I devoured the novel in a way that was foreign to me. I knew this was a deep experience, and believe me, I wasn't so deep at age 13! As I think about the experience now, I recall the power of the story. I could not put the book down, and when I reached the end, days later, I read it over again...a first for me.

Seeing it from this perspective, I know why it was so important.It was the first book of texture I had ever known. The images that formed in my mind as I read were richly dark. Sitting in my split level suburban home, I was transported to a place I had never been. Today, I still can call up those images when I hear the title of the novel, Jane Eyre.

Today

I read all the time and I am still creating powerful images. I work in the field of staff development for a large suburban school district..... Thanks for getting me involved Alexis!

Trish Rubin

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Marsha Ratzel shared this experience:

I think the book that has touched me the most as an adult would "A Gift from the Sea" by Anne Morrow Lindberg. I knew what she was going to say almost before she wrote it and I could hear the words being read aloud in my head. I found myself nodding and agreeing throughout the pages. This book made me feel that I wasn't alone at a time when I was struggling with raising my young preschool aged children and felt pretty isolated.

The book I most remember from my younger days was "A Wrinkle in Time". I wanted to travel through space and girls just didn't do those sorts of things. Yet that was possible in this book and the little girl was able to think about ideas and places that no one could imagine. I wanted to be her. It was so excited to consider the possibilities. I still love that book and think it hooked me on sci fi forever. These are pretty two different books, but they are stand outs from my reading inventory.

I teach 7th grade math and science in a Kansas middle school. I serve within my building as a techno nerd, the accrediation queen and advisory for 7th grade. My style is to expect tons from the kiddos, give them tons of flexibility and encouragement, and room to find their niche in each of my disciplines. I love to laugh with my students and teach them to not miss the learning opportunities that they have. They get sick of me telling them all the time. I think my role in education is to be serious about being in the business of helping kiddos learn, but not being serious about myself or life.

Marsha Ratzel

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Alexis Ducat mentioned several books that impacted her life:

Books have touched me deeply along various stages of my life--some I needed to read for educational purposes; some I was called to read by a spirit higher than me. However, the connections and comprehension came in many guises.

Recently, I read Who Moved My Cheese? A small book, yet quite powerful in its message regarding change. At this point in my life, I have been reticent regarding life's many changes, and when I came to the end, I laughed. I was stuck and this little book, with its comical characters, guided me in truly seeing that change is vital. I connected quite personally with Who Moved My Cheese and intend to move my cheese daily. My epiphany of knowing the power of that book simply was a shift in my thinking, about movement, about growth and change.

Yet, two summers ago, I had my breathe literally taken away by White Oleander by Janet Fitch. The language was exquisite and I found myself rereading quotes wondering how this woman was able to encapsulate these thoughts into prose. I had never read a book more powerful. I connected, not from the place where I could say "I knew how this dysfunctional character felt", but from a writer's point of view--noticing the beauty of the written word. I knew I "got it" when I gave it to my step-daughter to read, knowing she would feel some of the angst this character has felt about her own mother and she would truly connect with the character in the novel.

However, there is only one that I can say is the best book I have ever read. For me this book is The Prince of Tides. I carried it close to my heart while I was in a very uncertain place in my life. It was my beacon to help me survive my own feelings of self doubt. Although I wasn't much like any of the characters, I vacillated at times thinking I could very well have part of Savannah inside of me. That was quite disturbing.- but it allowed me to "show up". Yet, this book was powerful and I couldn't wait to get to each new page, savoring the words and longing to read more. As I approached the end, the sadness began to appear. What would I do when this book ended? Would there ever be another that touched me so deeply? The Prince of Tides was my friend and my soulmate for the duration of our time together. One hot summer night, in a hotel room far away from home, while my husband was sound asleep, I gingerly closed the book shut. I never have again had this reaction to a book. I laid there and sobbed for the loss of an incredible piece of writing and friend.

Books reach out to us when we need them the most--sometimes we don't know why. Power comes in all different forms - tears, laughter and incredible insight. Like Trish Rubin noted - sometimes they find us.

I am an Area of Interaction Leader in an International Baccalaureate Middle Years Program School in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. I have been blessed with wonderful mentors such as Hope Jenkins and Trish Rubin and have met Ellin Keene during my time spent at Columbia. Reading is my passion and fortunately for me, I head up our Language Arts department for the middle school, Humanities, Counseling Center and am team leader for four teams of teachers. I am also in the progress of receiving my masters in ed administration. Can't wait to read more wonderful stories.

Alexis Ducat

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Mary Anne Kosmoski chose several books about teaching:

hi! This is really difficult. There are so many books that I have read and re-read that have made an impact on my lif. I guess the pair that stands out the most is "Teacher, The Geranium on the Windowsill Just Died..." by Albert Cullum and "Lisa Bright and Dark." I chose them as a pair because they were a reading assignment for an Educational Psych class I took as a college junior some 20 years ago. At first they frightened me with the power that a teacher holds in the lives of their students. Many years later, finding them in an old box, they gave me hope that there are many teachers I have met in my career that do make an incredible, indelible positive impact on their students.

What I do.. currently, I serve as a curriculum resource teacher in the areas of reading and gifted education in an inner city middle school. I have taught gifted education for about 20 years. I have also worked as a curiculum specialist at the district level and as a sight based administrator at an elementary school.

Mary Anne

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Terrie Hinojosa chose "a simple book":

I've read so many books that have touched an understanding deep within...but a rather simple book changed my hardline approach to the issue of the death penalty...A Lesson Before Dying touch me to the core and for the first time I questioned beliefs that I found were brought from my childhood and not my own. It was powerful in that I began to question other beliefs, some I continue with and others I have found I no longer need.

I have to say though that "Mosaic of Thought" is a book that I have had more AH!HAH!s (the lightbulb just went on) than anything else I have read in a long, long time.

I am currently teaching at risk students Language Arts and Social Studies in an all 6th grade campus. I am also pursuing my masters in Library and Info. Science. This semester I am taking 9 semester hours. But that means I finish this summer....yea! Terrie Hinojosa Baker 6th Grade LaPorte, Tx

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Carol Lea Macke wrote:

Hi, I love reading about the moments other people really connect with text. I don't remember really connecting with a single book, I get "lost" into the story, the same way I do a well done movie. Lately, the books that I most connect with, and really avoid, are stories where a mother has to face with death of her child or husband. I have not had to face it myself but I don't want to make those connections because I ask myself "how would I feel?"

I am a math teacher in a small middle school (500 students). Some of my other roles are department chair, C.F.A.S.S.T. trainer (sorry, my brain is not working-I can't remember what the acronym stands for but it is California's support system for beginning teachers) and Support Provider (for our beginning teachers).

I'm looking forward to this discussion.

Carol
Almondale Middle School
Littlerock, CA

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Susan Hurstcalderone shared her early love of reading:

My first connections with the outside world came through the books I read. Growing up in an isolated area with few extras, we were happy to have the basics and never missed what we did not know about. But somewhere out there was another world...one that I wanted to know about, to experience, to live. Many hours during the hot, humid summers were spent under the large maple that shaded part of the backyard. From that spot I visited many many lands, learned of many cultures, considered foreign ideas and thoughts, and had the world opened to me. I visited the rain forest; I sailed the seas; I hiked to the depths of the Grand Canyon and experienced many different ways of life. There was a big world out there and I was a part of that world. I never felt left out because of these experiences. My books were my ticket to experience the world.

The years passed and I actually have seen those "visits" of my youth. My memories of each are just as real from both experiences. My reading continues to be as varied as before. Several of you have mentioned books that have touched me in a special way as an adult. Anne Lindbergh's Gift from the Sea has touched my soul. A visit to the shore is a spiritual renewal. Her words, with meanings on many levels, renew that spiritual part of my inner soul when my physical soul can not be there. There are others that I reread on a regular basis because I continue to find new meaning with each reading. With each decade of life, there seems to be a special piece that hits the spot.

A small book given to me many years ago calls for frequent rereading....Springs of Indian Wisdom.

And now, in the middle period of life when we are called upon to keep things going for the generation ahead and the generation behind, there are words of wisdom in the poem "Warning" by Jenny Joseph....

When I am an old woman I shall wear purple With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me, And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves And satin sandals, and say we've no money for butter........

I'm not there yet, but I do have that purple outfit ready to go. In the meantime, I teach science (grades 6, 7, & 8) and coordinate science for a K-8 building.

Thanks for the memories.

Susan

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Alexis Ducat replied:

Susan,

Reading your words brought tears to my eyes. In fact, reading all of this beautifully etched stories of reading, makes me want to go out and buy all of these books to feel - just to feel. Thank you for sharing your touching words with all of us.

Alexis

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And Deb Bambino suggested we just let the postings "unroll":

Hi,

I agree with your sentiments about all the powerful messages that folks are sharing. Don't feel obligated to respond just yet. Part of the power of these first two rounds is just letting all the connections unroll without cross conversation.

At first, I was nervous because no responses were coming in, but it's really growing now! I also felt like I needed to write briefly so others wouldn't feel they had to write a lot...boy was I off the mark : )

What a great group!

I wonder how it must feel to Ellin to have inspired so much rich feeling with her work...

Deb

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Joanne wrote:

I am a librarian switching from the public and academic sector to answer a calling to the world of the middle school student. At the moment I am a substitute, preparing myself for a teaching position in the Fall.

The first time I read the poem Sympathy by Paul Lawrence Dunbar I really didn't "get it". I discovered the poem because I had read that Maya Angelou got the title of her book I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings from it. From the first reading I loved its poetry, its pathos, and its rhythm, but I wasn't sure what he was saying. I had always equated a caged bird with our little pet parakeets (text to self connection!), making the assumption that they were happy little creatures, singing with joy because it was joy I felt in listening to their song. Thus it took me several readings to get that image out of my confused mind and to understand why the bird "beats his wing Till its blood is red on the cruel bars". I read the poem now and wonder how I ever misunderstood it. Now its meaning is so clear to me and its analogy to slavery/lack of freedom so apparent. But, in best Ellin Keene tradition, when my understanding was lacking, I kept reading until comprehension dawned. :)

sympathy

by Paul Lawrence Dunbar
1872 - 1906

I know what the caged bird feels, alas! When the sun is bright on the upland slopes, When the wind blows soft through the springing grass And the river floats like a sheet of glass, When the first bird sings and the first bud opes, And the faint perfume from its chalice steals - I know what the caged bird feels

I know why the caged bird beats his wing Till its blood is red on the cruel bars; For he must fly back to his perch and cling When he fain would be on the bow a-swing; And the blood still throbs in the old, old scars And they pulse again with a keener sting - I know why he beats his wing!

I know why the caged bird sings, ah me, When his wings are bruised and his bosom sore, - When he beats his bars and would be free; It's not a carol of joy or glee, But a prayer that he sends from his heart's deep core, But a plea, that upward to Heaven he flings - I know why the caged bird sings!


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Susan Fedor wrote:

Maybe it was the time of my life that made reading Reynolds Price's Letters to a Man in the Fire such a powerful experience. This is my time in life with an increasingly urgent search for meaning. Price, a survivor of incredible battles with cancer of the spine, was writing letters to a young medical student who had asked him the big questions: Is there a God. And if so, why does he allow such suffering. The letters are Price's attempt to answer these questions from the understanding he had come to during his own perilous disease.

I knew the book was powerful because I had to read and reread parts of it to understand. I grappled with some passages word by word and tried to knead them into meaning for me. Then I had to read parts of it out loud. Then I had to underline parts. Then I had to try to tell others what the book,s message was. Finally, I argued with others about the validity of the conclusions Price makes.

I have read many powerful books and this was just one. But thinking back, I knew it was powerful because of the staying power it held in my mind. Truman Capote's "A Christmas Memory" was a find for me early on and a selection that I would read many times orally over the years. I know Capote's fine genius for artful description creates mind pictures for his readers. I knew this was powerful work because I began to find, in my own writing his cadences, his combining of images, his patterns.

I am a reader. Last night, I read Holes because so many people on the discussion list were talking about it. Today, I cornered three language arts teachers before school and convinced them to read it, too. I lent my copy to a student and told him I wanted to see him in my office on Monday to talk about it. I am the founder and president of a bookclub. I cannot imagine life without books.

I'm also a principal of a sixth grade school in South Carolina.

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Deborah Bambino wrote:

Hi Everyone,

We're going to continue with "Round One" until about noon EST tomorrow. If you haven't had a chance to join in, I hope that will give you time to do so.

Hearing other peoples' stories of deep understanding has already pushed my thinking and practice about the ways we help students to become readers.

Deb

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Naomi Smith wrote:

Well, I have been reading all the ones and twos and thinking about how to contribute. This is my third reading of Mosaic, and I feel it is a very powerful book.

I remember wanting to read at an early age, but the theory then was "let them learn in school." So I had to wait. I remember Alice and Jerry and Jip in my first readers. I guess that is how I learned to decode. Billy Collin's Poem, First Reader (page 1), tells the story "It was always Saturday and he and she were always pointing at something and shouting, 'look!' pointing at the dog, the bicycle...." I remember "Jump, Jip, Jump". Growing up in a project in New York City, the world of Alice, Jerry and Jip was strange, but I longed for such a life (Text to Dream connection?)

I knew during my first year of teaching that the basal was not what I wanted to share with my students. I read children's literature and loved it. I knew that giving my students a chance to enjoy these books was important, but was it enough? On page 19/bottom it says "The teachers who posed important questions believed the compendium of skills lifted from the basal scope and sequence was irrelevant, uninteresting, and inadequate in terms of teaching children how to comprehend, but they didn't know what skills or strategies with which to replace that scope and sequence." This was my concern.

On page 21 it says, "many of the studies that examined the thinking of proficient readers pointed to only seven or eitht thinking strategies used consistently by proficient readers." Mosaic has brought together the research and the path forward.

Naomi

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Kathy Renfrew's early reading led her to teach in Australia:

Hello All,

Better late then never. I was trying to remember when I learned to read and I think I as around 4. I was in a private kindergarten (that was thinly kind way back when) Little red School House I believe. I was a voracious reader. I devoured Bobbsey Twins, Nancy Drew, Cherry Ames, Trixie ...you get the idea. I was always getting into trouble because at bed time, I would lie on my floor in the doorway reading from the light in the hall. Anyway, from there I progressed to Harlequin Romances and Barbara Cartland books. I hate to admit this but I actually became all those girls . I would live those books. I guess that is probably my first real connection. It is all my mother's fault as that was what she was reading in those days.

Anyway one of the connections was that many of those books were based on ranches in Australia. From my reading I developed an unbelievable desire to go to Australia. I did too!! Again many years ago I spent two years teaching there. This writing was so much fun . thanks for the probe Deb.

Kathy from Vermont

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Deborah Bambino moved the conversation to the next stage:

Good morning!

It's time to expand the conversation about Mosaic. Please feel free to post comments, questions, replies or experiences at this time.

I'm very excited about the possibilities of putting together the strategies of Guided Reading (Decoding) with those found in Mosaic for building understanding. For the last few years I was very busy making sure I had materials on all different reading levels that matched the themes I taught in science. I wanted everyone to have a way in to the curriculum. However, I was missing the modeling piece about how to make meaning at increasingly complex levels.

As I think about rolling this understanding out with other teachers and administrators, I can already hear their questions about managing a classroom that uses these strategies. How might you organize your block of time to make room for the "mystery implicit in the stone"(p 216)?

Teaching thematically is what worked best for me, especially with a project focus to guide or authenticate students' efforts. Do other folks use themes as the umbrella for their reader's and writer's workshops?

How might you help new folks get started with the metacognitive workshop approach?

Deb

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Susan Fedor wrote:

I've lent my copy of the book to a teacher on staff who says I'll get it back tomorrow complete with my margin notations and some of hers added. That's the way I like to have a book, already marked by a previous reader; even in college I always bought used books not just to save money.

So, no page numbers here....

Not to be deterred: I was so struck by the framework of text to text, text to self, and text to world connections that I explained this to my book club and our conversation about our last book took on a new, richer dimension. Our talk became more deliberate and our analysis more systematic.

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Ellen Berg wrote (in response to Deb Bambino):

Deb Bambino wrote: "However, I was missing the modeling piece about how to make meaning at increasingly complex levels."

I, too, was rushing from the mini-lesson to the practice, completely skipping the modeling. How often have all of us rushed through that part? The longer I teach, the more I notice how effective modeling is. The key is somehow keeping ourselves from feeling impatient to get to the heart of it all...though really, modeling is the heart of good instruction.

Deb wrote: "As I think about rolling this understanding out with other teachers and administrators, I can already hear their questions about managing a classroom that uses these strategies. How might you organize your block of time to make room for the "mystery implicit in the stone"(p 216)?"

I have just begun to try some aspects of a reading workshop in my classroom during third quarter. I teach in 80 minute blocks. For the first 5-10 minutes I have been reading aloud from _Hatchet_. I have been modeling some text to self connections, and I have found the kids doing the same. My students then complete the day's reader response journal (from Nancy Roberts' manual) (another 10 minutes). Sometimes I incorporate the mini-lesson into the modeling, other times I use it as a separate activity after journals. Finally, we get to work on the day's activities. Students are in leveled groups for guided reading with me but are working in other groups on a research project right now. I send 6-8 students to the library, 3 students to the mini-computer lab on my floor, 4 students to my computers to use the CD encyclopedia, and the rest work with me in the guided reading groups.

The Terra Nova pointed out my students cannot identify stated information in a passage, so I'm working on the "right there" aspect of the QAR strategy. I'm trying to find materials on their level, but time and resources being what they are, it's less than ideal. HOWEVER, I was excited to hear a young man in my homeroom explaining a word problem to another student telling him, "That's right there information."

What I'm lacking right now is independent reading time in my classroom. I feel such a crunch to accomplish everything that it's hard for me to give up that time. I know just how crucial it is, but I wonder how to fit in all the research and writing skills I need to teach. I imagine a bi- or tri-weekly format might work, but in all reality until I have time to plan it thoroughly I know it's on the back-burner.

Deb wrote: "Teaching thematically is what worked best for me, especially with a project focus to guide or authenticate students' efforts. Do other folks use themes as the umbrella for their reader's and writer's workshops?"

The science teacher and I are actually collaborating on a thematic unit, "Man-made and Natural Disasters". I can see how thematic, integrated units might really benefit students' reading comprehension. The longer you are immersed in a theme, the more context you are building. Children have the opportunity to compare information and really form an opinion about what they are reading and learning.

I really wish I could observe a reading workshop! Does anyone know of a teacher in the St. Louis, MO area who has a good example? I have some questions that might be answered if I could just see how it all worked.

Ellen Berg

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Ellen Berg wrote again to discuss an excerpt from "Mosaic":

On page 140 Ellin Keene writes, "If Jane Kenyon had chosen to end the lines of her poem, 'Three Small Oranges," with different words, if I didn't know she died from leukemia, if my own experiences were different, my images would have been different, and therefore, my comprehension of the poem different."

Knowing that, seeing that comprehension is both personal and dynamic, how reasonable is it for standardized tests to include selected response questions that go beyond "right there" or "think and search" type factual questions? If a reader's response is so intensely personal, how are my students to "guess" what the test writer's intent was? Especially since my students are living vastly different lives than the test writers.

Our state is making some progress on testing. Our high stakes state test--the Missouri Assessment Program--requires students to answer constructed response questions that seem to accept diverse answers as long as they are reasonably supported by what the student's explanation is. However, our students still take the Terra Nova, and the comprehension questions are still on there.

Am I missing something?

Ellen Berg

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Then Ellen Berg contributed a question for Ellin Keene, who was about to join the list conversation:

Ellin,

Many of your examples come from your work in elementary schools. I was wondering what modifications, tips, etc. you might have for those of us trying to adapt our middle school classrooms to reflect the comprehension strategies in _Mosaic_? My biggest struggle is finding pieces short enough to model the strategies on. Do you recommend using snippets of longer works? I have already used picture books, and I like the results I've gotten, but I want to expose them to even more.

Thank you for participating in our book chat! Your book has opened a whole new world to me both as a reader and a teacher.

Ellen Berg

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Naomi Smith wrote:

Just on the question of Independent reading time. As I understand it, after a mini lesson, students spend time practicing the strategy (thinking about it as they read) and then sharing their successful use of the strategy. So that independent reading time is very important. Or are you talking about additional independent reading time?

Naomi

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Anne Jolly shared her enthusiasm for Mosaic:

I'm going to rush to be one of the first to throw in my two cents on Mosaic because I fully expect to feel agreeably intimidated by (and to learn from) the more insightful comments our eloquent language arts folks will make.

As a secondary science teacher I looked forward to reading some "out of field" stuff like Mosiac and being able to throw around some yawner terms like "metacognition" as I spoke with language arts colleagues. So I ordered a copy and prepared to plow diligently through it.

Zap! What an unexpected pleasure! As I read Mosiac I wondered if I could really be enjoying a professional book this much, and learning at the same time! First, let me say that the style was totally captivating. Ellin and Susan have tremendous skill in crafting written material that generates exploding ideas. As I read, my mental backdrop became a moving scenario of how some of these ideas might play out in a middle school science class. For example, using the suggested strategies, students could begin to develop some really deep thinking processes that go beyond "mere" understanding - and maybe even enjoying - their textbook material (as if that wouldn't be wonderful enough!). What if kids learned to dissect (a good science term) their thinking and examine it with regard to solving problems and drawing conclusions about topics they encounter in other subject areas? What a good critical-thinking model these authors have unveiled!

Ellin and Susan's insights into ways of teaching reading comprehension as a strategic process also appeals to my deepest science instincts -- real learning is about process!

I've been trying to tune in to how to help my students develop better reading comprehension for several years now. You can probably tell by my earlier naïve comment about metacognition that my teacher prep coursework occurred long, long ago. I've plowed through information on teaching reading comp and asked colleagues for help. Now I finally find the help I need - ironically the very year I leave the classroom for a different position. At least I can share this resource with many teachers with whom I come in contact.

Thanks to Ellin for your wonderful insights, and for sharing them in an interesting as well as an informative manner. You are an inspiration.

Anne Jolly

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Deb Bambino wrote:

How reasonable is it for standardized tests to include selected response questions that go beyond "right there" or "think and search" type factual questions? If a reader's response is so intensely personal, how are my students to "guess" what the test writer's intent was? Especially since my students are living vastly different lives than the test writers.

I think Ellen is definitely on to something here. I want our kids to be able to make and support reasonable answers, but they shouldn't be expected to parrot the test maker's ideas.

I remember being blown away once because one of my students thought Emily Dickinson was talking about nuclear war in her poem, "Will There Really Be A Morning?". However, when I listened to my student's explanation, it was plausible. He didn't know anything about Dickinson, but he connected with her text.

Deb

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And Deb picked up on Ellen Berg's question about middle grades materials:

Hi,

I'm interested in Ellen's question about materials too. I've been thinking that we could use articles from student magazines, poems, short stories and excerpts.

A colleague once encouraged me to use "Minute Mysteries" to teach comprehension skills. I just remembered her advice. Since mysteries require students to pay attention to details or clues in order to solve the problem, I think her advice bears repeating.

Deb

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Naomi Smith wrote this about Mosaic:

On page 119 there is a section Some Key Ideas in which the authors look at what Proficient readers do. It states "However, when an answer is needed, proficient readers determine whether it can be answered by the text or whether they will need to infer the answer from the text, their background knowledge, and/or other text;" I believe that students will do better on standardized tests, because they will know what proficient readers do, and practice those strategies. of course, we want our students to perform well, but traditional test sophistication is not the answer.

Naomi

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Juli Kendall joined the conversation:

Ellen Berg wrote: "What I'm lacking right now is independent reading time in my classroom. I feel such a crunch to accomplish everything that it's hard for me to give up that time. I know just how crucial it is, but I wonder how to fit in all the research and writing skills I need to teach. I imagine a bi- or tri-weekly format might work, but in all reality until I have time to plan it thoroughly I know it's on the back-burner."

Here's what has worked for me -

I think the importance of independent reading time in the classroom cannot be over emphasized. It's the time when students get to use "on their own" the strategies that they are learning in lessons and see modeled in the classroom. Developing "the habits of readers" takes not only reading but choosing books. I have taken the strategies of questioning and inferring and used them to teach students about choosing books. We are still new to this but I am seeing big changes in independent reading and the conversations we have about books and authors. _Mosaic_ got me started, and my students are leading me along the road.

Using a scoring guide to judge their efforts for book choice and independent reading has really been a big motivator.

Ellen Berg wrote: "Many of your examples come from your work in elementary schools. I was wondering what modifications, tips, etc. you might have for those of us trying to adapt our middle school classrooms to reflect the comprehension strategies in _Mosaic_? My biggest struggle is finding pieces short enough to model the strategies on. Do you recommend using snippets of longer works? I have already used picture books, and I like the results I've gotten, but I want to expose them to even more."

This is what has helped my kids - I have used selections from the wonderful literature anthology we have. I think it is published by McDougall Littel. They are no more than 15 to 20 minutes long in a shared reading format and have lead us into learning strategies and Book Passes with some of the authors. The examples in _Mosaic_ have given me a great jumping off point.

Just sharing some ideas...

Juli

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Kathy Renfrew wrote:

As I think about Mosaic, I immediately make a connection to the work I have been trying to do with my kids in literature circles. I am thinking particularly of the role of connector. How easy this role would be for my students if they were captured by and understood the strategies of text to text, text to self and text to the world.

I remember when I read Mosaic for the first time, thinking to myself." I do that automatically when I read" I don't think I was specifically taught those as reading strategies. I just do them because they help me make sense of whatever I am reading.

it makes so much sense to teach these strategies to our kids.

Kathy from vermont

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Ellen responded to an earlier comment by Naomi:

Naomi Smith wrote: "Just on the question of Independent reading time. As I understand it, after a mini lesson, students spend time practicing the strategy (thinking about it as they read) and then sharing their successful use of the strategy. So that independent reading time is very important. Or are you talking about additional independent reading time?"

Additional. We have so much more to do, I just don't think we have enough time in class to just read. How do other language arts teachers deal with this situation? How do we fit in all the other stuff and have enough time to just enjoy and practice reading?

Ellen Berg

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Mary Anne wrote:

Ellen, As a school we recognized lack of independent reading time. During our advisory period, two days a week, out entire school shuts down for silent sustained independent reading. Even the secretaries shut off their phones and model independent reading. It still isn't enough, but it is more than we had at the beginning!

Mary Anne

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Marsha Ratzel wrote about her book experiences:

Hello all,

I am sorry that I haven't been participating to the level that my mind is bursting with ideas. And you'll have to pardon my lack of eloquently stating my opinion because so many of you are incredibly articulate. I have been torn by a dilemma---two days before this chat started I got a postcard from the library telling me that two of the books I have been on the waiting list for had arrived. Not one mind you. But two. I have been waiting for months. These books, Eyewitness to Power by David Gergen and"The Bear and The Dragon" by Tom Clancy are not in the same category with all the wonderful literature most of you all read. But I love the escapism of Tom Clancy and the peek into the behind the scenes operation of four presidents is breathtaking. I only get to checkout these books for three weeks because they are non-renewable since there is such a long waiting list. The Clancy book is over a 1,000 pages and Gergen's book is about 400. So you can see my dilemma-----read or participate. (At least with Gergen's book I can focus in on the presidents I am most interested, re-enter my name on the waiting list and then read the presidents I didn't make it to this time.) So I've been spoiling myself by reading.

Nevertheless I am haunted by Mosaic. I teach science and math so I always struggle with understanding how to apply fiction ideas to my content area. I thought I was doing pretty well, but I now realize that the modeling component is just not there. I have incorporated lots of read alouds, but they aren't the right kind (I now realize).

So I need to work at collecting a new set of materials. I "get" that I need to more explicitly teach inferential skills. Convicted by p152's question: "Yet how often do we create the context for them to dsicuss, ponder, argue, restate, persuade, relate.........or otherwise work with the information we consider critical for them to recall? To push beyond the literal text, to make it personal and three-dimensional, to weave it into our stories----that is to infer". Convicted, dead in my shoes in the middle of Room 116. I have different reading levels of materials, I have lots of supplemental trade books for them to pick up and read, I use read alouds to expose them to ideas. But what I didn't have was a cohesive gameplan about how to "weave" all this together to help facilitate that big step in understanding.

So I must return to the library and search for readings and passages that will evoke the emotional attachment to science. Wow!!!!! That's intimidating. I have been on a quest, over the past few days, to find more original diary-type readings for my kiddos to hear. Confused, I am wondering how to proceed. How to "play with imagination as we mentally expand the text"? I wonder if students always have enough background knowledge to do this in science and math?

I know, for example, that students weren't connecting to Robert Hooke and Antoni van Leeuwenhoek important contributions to microscopes in the 1600s. So I let them perform Hooke's experiment with the cork cells and we tried to use crude lens to "look" at these cells trying to simulate what they must have experienced. Then I re-read some of Hooke's original text describing cells and bee legs. Then we go back to the textbook section on the History of Science and I know they have much better comprehension of it. So, do I need to build background before they can jump to understanding the textbook?

And my last thought, who can't love Anne and The Secret Garden. That's my students. The textbook is obviously way too hard for them to read. But they want to read it. They are curious and want to know more about what we're studying. I'm "mean" because I don't always answer their questions and encourage them to test their ideas in the lab or read about it in a book. Then we discuss what they've learned and how it fits into the larger idea. But they aren't always successful when they try independently reading the text.

So I've tried to supplement with trade books that are on a lower reading level. But I never had a cohesive plan for teaching fix up strategies on how to use that in science books. And I stand convicted again on the count that I haven't modeled anything. I didn't know that was key. Now I do and I'm resolved to "fix it". I also have to tell you that my mind is racing to my math students. We are using a wonderful problem solving based series, Connected Math Program, that gives the kids fits. In large part, since this is our first year of implementation they don't have any experience, because they can't read tthe text closely enough to really, really understand what the problem is asking and pulling out clues to help them solve it. I will spend the next couple of weeks thinking about a plan for that class too.

So I won't be chatting anymore. I have too much to do since my classes are in such a sorry state. (Just kidding about the chatting part). I am committed to thinking about the ideas in this book, getting an outline of them in my mind, and then formulating a plan for a small scale attempt for the rest of the year. My weaving won't be a huge one. But maybe I can do something on a small scale well that will have a lasting impact on their reading comprehension. And I'm also very committed to more purposeful modeling and finding materials that will emotionally connect my kids to the subject. I think that is the biggest idea I'm taking away from reading this book. Thanks to the authors because I needed this, or should I say, my students needed you.

Marsha

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Deb replied:

Marsha,

It sounds like you've been "modeling" without making it explicit. I wouldn't waste a lot of time beating myself up...you've got bigger fish to fry...in terms of your students, and your own independent reading : ).

Thanks for sharing so much of your self and your classroom experiences. Maybe eloquence is in the eye, ear and heart of the reader. I was moved by your comments and your resolve to implement the strategies we learned in Mosaic.

Thanks, Deb

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Joanne wrote in response to earlier comments by Anne Jolly:

Anne wrote: "So I ordered a copy and prepared to plow diligently through it. Zap! What an unexpected pleasure! As I read Mosiac I wondered if I could really be enjoying a professional book this much, and learning at the same time! First, let me say that the style was totally captivating. Ellin and Susan have tremendous skill in crafting written material that generates exploding ideas."

I have to write and agree with Anne here. I remember opening up Mosaic of Thought, dreading how quickly I would fall asleep over yet another "textbook". I was delighted with the style and complete ...... what? ......... availability/accessibility of the text. Even I, whose unused teaching degree dates back to 1975, could follow and nod and agree my way through this terrrific guide. Thank you Ellin and Susan.

Going hand in hand with Ellin's prescription for the need for independent reading time, is the research findings of Krashen and, I think it is McQuillan, that I am studying in my School Libraries course. Raising literate children is directly linked to the AMOUNT children read. The more they read (books, magazines, newspapers, comics, whatever), the more they learn how to read and comprehend what they are reading. (And, naturally, what follows next is........ increase in test scores, which is crucial these days.)

Regardless of tests, though, we simply have to push reading into our student's minds and hands. I subbed today, and as students finished their assignments I told them to sit quietly at their desks and read something. I had my book (Girl in Hyacinth Blue by Susan Vreeland) in full view as I read and monitored the class. I could not believe how the vast majority of these students chose to sit staring off into space rather than pull out a book and read to pass the time.

And so it goes. Our work is cut out for us....... Thank goodness for books like Mosaic. They are certainly sharpening my dull scissors.

Joanne Stanker

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"Mosaic of Thought" co-author Ellin Keene wrote in response to all the conversation:

Hello everyone, I've been trying to get connected to the conversation you've had for a couple days and feeling like I was outside pounding on a window and a great party was going on just inside the window. I have read with great interest what you all have written and want to respond to a question posed directly to me yesterday by Ellen Berg. It related to modifications for middle school.

Since Mosaic was published we have done much more work in middle schools with great success -- much of which is captured in Cris Tovani's new book, I Read it, But I Don't Get It. Of course there are many adaptations related to use of time and, as you suggest Ellen, with respect to materials. We have found that many of the picture books with weighty themes are just as useful in middle school as in elementary school. The kids don't seem to react negatively to them and of course there are so many with themes far more comprehensible to middle schoolers than elementary children. For example, I have a huge text set with Holocaust themes, another with immigration themes, etc. The topics are moving and important to middle schoolers and they are short enough to be really useful for mini lessons.

Secondly, I use pieces out of the New York Times Sunday Magazine section and Week in Review section -- both available on line -- frequently with older kids. Look especially for the "end page" and "what were they thinking" in the magazine and so many of the op ed pieces in the week in review. It's a constant source. Similarly, the New Yorker (yes, I know there's a theme emerging here) has its famous "Talk of the Town" pieces at the beginning of each week's magazine and many are very appropriate (not all!) and a perfect length for modeling. I also love to use Czeslaw Milosz' poetry (really short prose) as in his book Road Side Dog --- and turn often to old favorites like Cynthia Rylant's Waiting to Waltz.

The newspaper is a never ending source as is Newsweek, etc. Don't forget the picture books, though, you'll love them more each time you read them with kids. We often revisit the same picture book many times to explore how a strategy is used more thoughtfully later in the strategy study than it was earlier. They love to see their own growth.

I also wanted to respond to Marsha's ideas about applications in Science. I would eagerly recommend anything by Richard Feynmann (the physicist who with a simple demonstration solved the mystery of the Challenger disaster -- the O ring in the glass of water, remember?) He writes with wisdom, humility and humour and I think your kids would love him. I would also like to recommend Steph Harvey's book Non-Fiction Matters which has dozens of great content area titles and was written specifically for teachers of upper elementary and middle school.

I will close for now, walk the dog and cherish one of my few evenings at home with my family, but I want to thank all of you, more than I can say, for your thoughtful reading and comments about Mosaic. As with any book, the readers have inferred far more than the writers implied!!! I'm lucky to have such brilliant readers and look forward to joining you throughout this chat.

best, ellin

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John Norton offered some information:

Ellin Keene wrote: "Since Mosaic was published we have done much more work in middle schools with great success -- much of which is captured in Cris Tovani's new book, I Read it, But I Don't Get It."

See more information at the publisher's website (Stenhouse):

http://www.stenhouse.com/0089.htm

John

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Trish Rubin wrote with some more reading materials ideas:

I work as a staff developer in elemenatry grades, but I have taught for many years in middle school. I will offer two suggestions that have worked for demonstrating the think aloud on short texts . This comes from Teachers College Columbia.

Use essays from the newspaper...Leonard Pitts' work is good for this...any regular feature will do. They are usually short and contoversial and written at a good level of challenge. Older kids like them. Also...don't laugh at this...type up the texts of picture books. There are thousands out there that are great to use for demos and the topics can be quite sophisticated.The kids never know they are studing a picture book text when the words are lifted out of the text.

Trish Rubin

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Amy Heinsma wrote:

I'm Amy Heinsma, 7th Grade Language Arts & Reading, Windsor, Colorado, joining a little late because of a family emergency. I wanted to make sure and join in.

Round One Question - The book that I really remember from when I was younger was called "The Girl with the Silver Eyes". It was not profound. I was a "good" reader, but it seemed rote. I connected emotionally (text-to-self) with this book. I truly understood the character and what she went through feeling different from everyone else. I loved it, and it was the first time where I felt I was understanding a book on a deeper level that simply regurgitating facts.

Round Two - 1. The word that obviously strikes me in this book is the term "mosaic". It brings all the pieces and strategies into a whole. 2. The phrase I chose is on page 24, discussing the mosaic, "design we had experienced and longed to share with other teachers and children." I realized I love to read and so do my fellow teachers, but we don't share what we read and why we love it with each other and/or our students. It seems vital. 3. The sentence I chose is on page 53. "We rarely see the systematic spread of best practices." I have been on a bandwagon to really look at classroom practice, including my own, instead of leaving people to create their own mysterious world within their room. Not earthshaking, but definitely reminders.

This is my second time through the book, and as I was rereading the first chapter, I decided to write a poem. I wanted to (nervously) share it with you.

Literacy Lessons (Read the first letter of each line)

Learning myself
Inside the world of school
Trying to teach
Engage
Reach
Acting as if
Cutting into a poem or story or essay once will make it
Yummy to my seventh graders

Learning to model my
Excitement!
Scanning isn't really reading
So I concentrate on those ones who have
Opted out
Never feeling welcome to the feast
Submerged in the buffet of letters

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Ellen Berg responded to Amy's poem:

Amy,

Your poem (and bravery in sharing it) really touched me. The lines,

So I concentrate on those ones who have
Opted out
Never feeling welcome to the feast
Submerged in the buffet of letters

drew me into the reality of my poorer readers. I've shared that I am concerned that the ease with which I have always read keeps me from understanding how to reach the students who struggle with it. "Submerged in the buffet of letters," so accurately conveys that feeling of drowning, similar to how I felt when I took Chemistry.

I came across a response to a journal prompt I gave just before Christmas, "Do you want people to think you are smart? Explain."

One of my really low readers wrote,

"It's not good to be not smart because I am in this grade and I still don't know the first grade words." (Errors and grammar corrected)

Reading your poem and reading _Mosaic_ really is pushing me to figure out how to help him. He acts out all the time, and I know it's because he's drowning.

Amy, you really put the thoughts, feelings, and experiences of our children into words. Thank you for sharing with us.

Ellen Berg

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John Norton posted this:

Friends...

Deb Bambino's MiddleWeb diary this week recounts a conversation among administrators about that old saw: "20 percent just won't learn." She explores this truism of school life drawing on her reading of Mosaic. Here's what she wrote. How do you respond to Deb's question:

"Do we really believe that whole groups of children don't care about themselves? Do we really think that some kids are born without the desire to know, the willingness to participate?"

John

DEB BAMBINO - DIARY #21

Do we really believe kids are born
without the desire to know?

Yesterday, after a "Walk Through" of her school, a principal asked our rather large group of visiting administrators what she could do about the ever present 20 percent of her students that she can't seem to reach. Everyone acknowledged the problem. Everyone had tasted their piece of this pie, no one likes it, but we've all learned to live with it.

There was plenty of blame to go around at this session. High school folks wanted to know why the middle schools hadn't "fixed" these kids, and the folks in the middle turned to ask the same question of the elementary teachers. We used a protocol and the conversation was handled politely, but there was no mistaking the purpose -- the blame game had begun.

Since we were all respectful of each other and how hard we all work, I knew it wouldn't take long for the locus of blame to be turned away from us and on to the kids and their families. A few minutes went by and sure enough, one of the principals began to talk about the lack of motivation, the "baggage" that some kids bring. I could already predict the next sentence, the one about the parents, the ones who packed those bags.

By the time this principal got around to talking about work ethic as something you either have or don't have, I was feeling pretty upset. However, she was upset too, and she was just giving voice to a very popular view about why some kids fail.

Instead of the defeated acceptance of this view of kids, a view fraught with biases based on race and class, maybe we need to look at the why's behind the disengagement. Do we really believe that whole groups of children don't care about themselves? Do we really think that some kids are born without the desire to know, the willingness to participate?

Could it be more about us and less about them? Have we presented skills and experiences galore in the primary grades fully expecting our kids to make sense of it by grades four or five?

Do we know how we understand the ways we make meaning? Is our ability to connect with text something we were taught or was it something we received as a birthright?

I don't think I was taught to understand. I was taught to cooperate in school, but at home I was encouraged to question, to talk, to think. Do we encourage our children to think in school? Do we demystify thinking by teaching about it?

I'm reading Mosaic of Thought, by Ellin Oliver Keene and Susan Zimmerman, and their focus on the ways we make meaning, and our ability to share these processes, has knocked me off my feet. As you can tell from all my questions, I'm on a thinking binge.

Is this the way in, the missing connection to the elusive 20 percent of our children? Can we help them cross the bridge from decoding techniques to real connection with texts? Are we prepared to probe and share our own process of understanding?

Are we willing to take a long look at the texts we use, texts that might make it harder for our children to forge connections because the names, faces and situations bear no resemblance to their lives? Can we take ownership of the ways we silence our children, with a look or a comment? How can we cross the bridge together?

I brought up a few of my questions in yesterday's session. I asked if people felt kids knew how to understand and and whether we felt we knew how to explicitly teach these strategies.

I mentioned that I was reading Mosaic of Thought and that it was really pushing my thinking about these issues of motivation vs. understanding. I also talked about adolescence as a time of emotional upheaval, a time when it was easier to play it cool and come without supplies, than it was to honestly admit you didn't know how to know. I'm anxious to explore these questions and apparently so were a lot of other folks in the session.

We agreed to buy the book for everyone involved in this cross-Cluster initiative. We also agreed to read the book before our next meeting in March. I know there's no one answer to helping all kids construct meaning, but I have that weird feeling you get when you are on the brink of really learning something, the feeling that this could be big. On that note, I better get back to the book and our online discussion of it.

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Linda Haskell wrote:

Hello,

I've been busy reading everyone's posts and learning a lot. My interloaned copy didn't arrive until last weekend, but I've been busy trying to catch up. One part that really caught my attention was the way students read nonfiction. What was described in the book (eyes glazed, etc.) describes how my seventh graders read.

I tried an experiment. We were studying myths. We read many orally in class and discussed them. Then I gave them a myth to read silently and afterwards gave them discussion questions on it. They read and discussed great. Then I have them a myth and the questions together. Suddenly they stopped reading and skimmed for the answers, just what I've seen them do for homework assignments in science and social studies.

I was shocked and appalled and discussed it with them. Most just reacted sheepishly with the excuse they knew better, but this was faster. We discussed that they had enjoyed the myths before and most agreed, but this was their habit. Other than not giving them questions until after they have read, any ideas. I feel we need to do some comprehension work individually on both fiction and nonfiction like they will have on assessment tests. If they do this on fiction, what about when we move to a nonfictin unit?

Linda

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Trish Rubin wrote:

I don't have my notes in front of me , but I heard Ellin speak to a small group of teachers and administrators last week. She talked about the perception that educators may have of "those children" who seemingly can't learn to comprehend. Her insight about those children leads me to think that it is "our methods"...or lack of a repertoire of methods...that prevents "those children" from connecting. The fault often lies not in those children, but in us...we have to stretch ourselves everyday to find new ways to connect to our varied learners.

Trish

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Leighann Fuller, who teaches with Ellen Berg, joined in:

Hello! I've been lurking and finally thought of something to add! (Ellen Berg said I HAD TO say something... :))

I am in my second year of teaching and it is still pretty tough, but I'm making it! Sometimes it is a real challenge to get the kids motivated to want to read. Right now, we are reading _Dear Mr. Henshaw_ by Beverly Cleary and using Nancy Roberts' response journal prompts. Today when I asked someone to pass out the books and journals, a student said to her friend, "Awww yeah, we get to read that book again. I really like that book."

This girl is a lower level reader, but she loves the book. She was an F student first quarter, but has a C now and is determined to make an A. I think the important thing is she's reading something that is of great interest to her. When I had them read in groups yesterday, she organized her group--who would read 1st, 2nd, etc. Before she would have done anything but work.

Kids do care, they just don't always care about what WE care about. :) When we find what they care about and use it to link to what they need to know they will respond. :)

Just my .02, (Ellen, I posted, so you won't have to bug me :))

Leighann

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Anne Jolly wrote with a question for Ellin Keene:

Ellin, I looked at a website description of the book you mentioned in a previous post - "I Read It but I Don't Get It." Together with "Mosaic" it looks as if it might actually make teaching reading comprehension a successful venture (from the standpoint of a secondary science teacher). These books have all the right ingredients to generate success.

I want to know why you decided to focus your work with middle schools. I've read discouraging literature that suggests that if a child can't read before he leaves elementary school then there's not much chance that child will ever be able to read well. Do you believe that is right? What sort of documented success are you seeing?

Another question - are you finding much resistance among teachers who are not language arts teachers? As an old(er) teacher, I certainly had to change my mindset and believe that it was as much my responsibility to teach reading as that of the language arts teacher. Then I had the difficult task of trying to figure out, mostly on my on, how to do that. Your book would have made that task much easier!

Thanks - Anne Jolly

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Trish Rubin wrote with some observations about an Ellin Keene presentation:

I am fortunate to work in a large suburban school district which, thanks to the presence of a new, visionary superintendent, is living and breathing educational reform. We were lucky to have Ellin Keene in our district for two days last week.She addressed hundreds of teachers in a full day program, a small group at night and she did several demo lessons in classrooms with our kids the following day...she was amazing. What she has done for us is to start a sincere conversation among teachers in buildings, grade level meetings,etc...all around the 7 comprehension strategies...she may even get the elementary school and middle school staff to connect because of this spark!

About stretching....I now think about slowing down the time in my teaching and in kids' responses as they learn. I use a wide cross section of texts, articles, reviews, picture books. Most of all I am stretching my own thinking beyond the superficial ways I had kids responding to reading. Even the great idea of literature circles was superficial in my work...my kids were skating across texts. I and my colleagues are focusing on intense modeling of strategies...teaching one strategy at a time. It is hard to discipline yourself to this way of thinking. I'm only at the beginning.

Trish
Cherry Hill, NJ

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Naomi Smith wrote:

I know it is frustrating when students get to middle school and are still not readers. Some of them can decode and comprehend, but don't want to. Others seem to struggle with comprehension and have given up. We are into our 2nd year of readers workshop. We have based our workshop on the work in Mosaic of Thought. Many of our former "non-readers" have become readers.

Our title I reading teachers "push into" the reading workshop, allowing for students to be conferenced with more often. I think that the traditional reading programs and pull outs have not been effective. The workshop,with its mini-lessons, time for reading, conferencing and sharing can be successful with our struggling middle school readers.

I am very excited about Cris Tovani's new book, "I Read it, But I Don't Get It." and will purchase it immediately.

Naomi

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Deb Bambino wrote:

I wrote: "Are we willing to take a long look at the texts we use, texts that might make it harder for our children to forge connections because the names, faces and situations bear no resemblance to their lives?"

I'm not responding to myself, but I would like to elaborate a bit... I, too, read everything and anything I could get my hands on as a kid. However, I was crazy for Nancy Drew, Amelia Earhart, Elizabeth Blackwell, M.D. etc. My point isn't that we must lose sight of the bigger picture of humanity, but rather that we expand the picture until it acts as both "window & mirror" (to borrow Emily Style's phrase) for our kids. I still read lots of different authors, styles etc, but I do especially like to read books by women. In my thirties, I discovered literature by Italian American women and I have been writing ever since...

Deb

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Then Deb wrote:

Naomi,

Could you share some of the materials you've found most useful with your struggling readers?

How much student choice is involved in your program/workshop?

I've ordered the new book too!

Deb

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Deb also wrote:

Trish,

Could you share a few of your "stretches" with us?

Please share a bit about your school or context too.
Thanks, Deb

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Naomi replied:

In our reading workshop all students choose their own books. In the classroom we have lots of books in colorful baskets. Books are grouped mainly by genre, but we have baskets that are "just for fun" (easy) and others that are "challenging." In the same class we can have one student reading a Step Into Reading level 2 book and another reading "Death of a Salesman."

We also have an excellent school library. The library is open for free access several periods a day, as well as after school.

As the Assistant Principal I keep some baskets of books in my office. When that hard to please student just cannot find anything, they can be sent to my office to find something special.

We have also started book groups. Small groups of students (3-5) choose to read the same book or books by the same author. For instance we have a group of girls reading "Make Lemonade" and a group of boys reading books by Walter Dean Myers. They decide how far everyone should read, and then discuss the book quietly. Others continue to read their self selected books.

Naomi Smith

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And Deb replied:

Thanks Naomi,

Can't wait to pass on your reply to teachers I'm working with in my area.

The boys in the Walter Dean Myers group might enjoy his son's new picture book, Wings. The book is about intolerance and is a sort of modern day, urban Icarus tale.
Deb

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Marsha Ratzel wrote in response to Deb's question, posed in her diary: "Do we really believe that whole groups of children don't care about themselves?

If this is true, I've never seen it. Sometimes you come across a class that has lost their vision, but I've always been lucky enough that they've caught it again. Even just for a fleeting time period, but they've never gone completely cold. Sometimes kiddos have forgotten they can be curious, that they can ask questions that don't have an immediate answer, that adults care and believe about them as people (not as a trophy possession). But that's when a book can really, really work it's magic.

A warm memory comes to mind. I had a tough group of 6th graders a few years ago. Talkative, off-task, very unfocused and not very interested in much except passing period and team time (where we went outside for a bit of exercise 2x a week). None of my usual tricks suceeded in piquing their interest. That was until they heard their first Gary Paulsen book. And then another and another. And then they wanted to read him for themselves. The librarian had to interlibrary loan books from all over just to keep up with the demand.

So instead of my curriculum, we read Paulsen. I really didn't care that it wasn't science. Although I did manage to work in his love of nature and keen observations. (This was before Brian's Winter) but we had Woodsong, Dogsong. And I will never ever forget a impish student who almost exploded during SSR while reading Harris and Me. His uncontainable laughter infected everyone on our 75 person team eventually.

Gradually, we were able to broaden their focus and show how that same enjoyment could spread to everything else (well almost everything, I don't think we ever had a math breakthrough). Later I was able to bribe them to work on science graphs, etc by reading aloud Brian Jacques "Redwall." It was during all these reads that I think they revived their vision of a better end goal. They care because they had a glimpse of something bigger than they were, bigger than our class, bigger than our school.....well you get the idea. They had lost their way because they hadn't encountered anyone who kept their vision alive.

And Deb wrote: "Do we really think that some kids are born without the desire to know, the willingness to participate?"

No. Some are shy and reserved, but participate silently in their own space. But I think that I've never met someone who doesn't want to know something. Maybe that something doesn't fit into school, but I'll bet they want to learn about something.

And I have one comment about Deb's message.

Are we willing to take a long look at the texts we use, texts that might make it harder for our children to forge connections because the names, faces and situations bear no resemblance to their lives?

You know I have to say that I don't think our texts have to resemble us to allow us to make connections. It's not names, faces, and situations. It's about ideas and the spirit of living. I think it's whether or not the text asks the essential questions that all people can relate to no matter how old, how young, where they live, etc. I didn't grow up reading about inspiring women (except for Clara Barton and Florence Nightengale). Everything we read was about boys and men who did and experienced cool things.

Girls didn't get to do anything that I thought remotely sounded interesting or exciting. But you know, my dad showed me how to look at the ideas behind those men. ( If you've read The Education of Little Tree it's the Shadow Pictures) and take whatever dreams I wanted from them and make my own. And there weren't any heroic stories of farm girls from Kansas doing much of anything except cooking and cleaning and sweeping dust out of sod houses.

I grew up with the perspective that the texts told us about things and people we could never experience if we stayed in our own little town. It opened up new places and didn't feel squelched at all. I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't match with my experience at all.

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Beverly Maddox wrote:

Marsha's response to Deb's query reminded me of something Lucille Clifton said to the audience at the annual Little Rock Author Symposium arranged by retired children's librarian Ethel Ambrose two or three years ago (I carry this quote in my wallet to keep me grounded): Ms. Clifton said in response to a plea from a teacher for suggestions on books that would reflect the lives of African-American children, "African-American children know what they see in the mirror; what they need is windows."

As I reflect on myself and the adults that kids I taught have grown into, I believe it to be true for all kids, especially for those who seldom find joy, affection, nurturing, or positive regard at school. You know the kids I mean--they're the ones who seem not to hold any sense of hope for themselves.

Reading _Mosaic of Thought_ and my colleagues comments have refreshed my "mission." Thanks to you all.

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Mary Anne replied:

Beverly-- What a wonderful quote! I used it in my curriculum notes today. Wouldn't it make even more sense if it just said--"All children know what they see in the mirror--what they need are windows."

Mary Anne

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Terrie Hinojosa wrote:

Hi all, I have been lurking but this comment in Deb Bambino's diary entry really connected with me:

"I also talked about adolescence as a time of emotional upheaval, a time when it was easier to play it cool and come without supplies, than it was to honestly admit you didn't know how to know."

This is the perfect description of many of my at-risk boys in my classroom. Sometimes my frustration causes me to "lose it" with them! I was at this point just yesterday. Thank you for reminding me so eloquently that this is where they are at and it's up to me to help them get past it. Just lately I feel I finally hit crossed a new barrier with my class-we began reading Louis Sachar's book, Holes. It was unbelievable! We are almost done and the kids are actually saying wishing it were a longer book! It's amazing when kids find something they care about reading, their reading ability sure comes up!

Terrie Hinojosa

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Paulette Romano wrote:

I hope I'm not imposing on the focus of this group. I need to know about some books that I have recently acquired for free. I teach 6th grade and I am not familiar with all these titles. Since I don't have the time to read them first before I offer them to my class, I was wondering if any of you are familiar with any of these and could tell me just a rough estimate of grade level reading and if the content has any questionable material.

"Dancing on the Edge" by Han Nolan
"Esperanza Rising" by Pam Munoz Ryan
"Being With Henry" by Martha Brooks
"The Last Book in the Universe" by Rodman Philbrick
"Bat 6" by Virginia Euwer Wolff
"The Seven Songs of Merlin" by T. A. Barron
"Rules of the Road" by Joan Bauer
"Belle Prater's Boy" by Ruth White
"Gods and Generals" by Jeff Shaara
"Hello, I Lied" by M. E. Kerr
"Scorpions" by Walter Dean Myers
"Someone Like You" by Sara Dessen
"Better Than Life" by Daniel Pennac
"Jacob Have I Loved" by Katherine Paterson
"Zel" by Donna Jo Napoli

Thanks very much if you can respond about any of these!!

Paulette

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Linda Haskell replied to Paulette:

Hi,

Brave soul. I usually try to skim anything I hand to kids first. That being said, if I am right, is "Dancing on the Edge" by Han Nolan the book where the father disappears from the basement naked? If so, it was an unusual but great book. However, most kids don't get it without help.

Jacob Have I Loved is great, too. However, I use to teach it to 8th graders. Even then many didn't get it without help. There are a lot of Bible verses and references many students today just don't get unless they are explained. Many of my kids didn't know any of the Bible characters mentioned. That being said, it is a great higher level read.

Linda

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Naomi Smith also replied:

Paulette asked about these books for 6th graders. I checked with my librarian (thank goodness for librarians):

"Dancing on the Edge" by Han Nolan - might be heavy duty/ well reviewed

"Esperanza Rising" by Pam Munoz Ryan - great author, don't know the book

"Being With Henry" by Martha Brooks - don't know

"The Last Book in the Universe" by Rodman Philbrick - looks good

"Bat 6" by Virginia Euwer Wolff - wonderful, perfect

"The Seven Songs of Merlin" by T. A. Barron - well reviewed, may be advanced

"Rules of the Road" by Joan Bauer - well reviewed

"Belle Prater's Boy" by Ruth White - great

"Gods and Generals" by Jeff Shaara -- don't know (Editor's note - an adult novel of the Civil War, highly realistic)

"Hello, I Lied" by M. E. Kerr - probably upper middle school, could be questionable

"Scorpions" by Walter Dean Myers - great

"Someone Like You" by Sara Dessen - don't know

"Better Than Life" by Daniel Pennac - don't know

"Jacob Have I Loved" by Katherine Paterson - great

"Zel" by Donna Jo Napoli - good

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Marsha Ratzel also replied:

"The Seven Songs of Merlin" by T. A. Barron---this is a wonderful book. There are several in a series. I think it's such fun to read and the language is delightful. I've read it aloud to classes that couldn't independently read it. Everyone loved it.

""Scorpions" by Walter Dean Myers The 7th graders I have loved this book. They couldn't stop reading it for the assignment. They just "had" to finish it.

"Jacob Have I Loved" by Katherine Paterson -- This book is very intellectual. It isn't a book kids should read for the story. It has so much meaning for them inside the story. It's one of the first they can look for those meanings and it is very exciting for them to find the symbolism.

Marsha

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Terrie Hinojosa responded to Paulette:

Being With Henry by Martha Brooks I read this book and really can't imagine 6th graders especially liking it. It moves fairly slow. It is the story of a young man whose mother kicks him out after a fight between him and his step-father. While on the streets, he meets an elderly man who takes him in and trades a place to live and food for work. The young man eventually questions his birth father who he never knew and finds his answer.

Terrie Hinojosa Baker
6th Grade Campus
LaPorte, Tx

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And so did Mary Anne:

Hi-- The books on your list are all good adolescent fiction--some the Walter Dean Myers book for instance--may be unacceptable in some locations. I have a rule that I generally follow that is simply if I haven't read it, I don't put it on the shelf in my classroom. Maybe a better place for some of those titles is the school library. My rule keeps me reading and knowledgeable about the changes in adolescent literature, and it keeps me safe! If a parent ever questions me about a particular book, I can answer without hesitation.

Mary Anne

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Paulette Romano replied:

Thank you to all of you who responded concerning the books I received recently. I, too, generally do not just put books out in my classroom library without reading them. However, most of your responses helped me to choose which ones to read first so I could eventually offer them. By knowing that some were of too high a level or some questionable, mature content I was able to narrow down my task. I value all your replies!

Paulette

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Deb Bambino wrote:

Yesterday there was some discussion about what our children needed from literature. Specifically, we were beginning to kick around questions about the relative importance of sharing books that match their experiences and cultures (mirror) vs. windows to the bigger, broader world.

I would like to hear more about your views on this topic because I have found it to be key in granting access for my children. In particular, I'm wondering if we don't have a particular responsibility to combat the clouding of our children's perceptions of themselves. Our culture presents a veritable deluge of negative images about our youth. Children of color are especially victimized by the media and press. Adolescence is a time of incredible self doubt without the addition of racial, cultural & gender bias.

Do you think they have an accurate view of their own reflections, their own possibilities? Do you think I'm giving this too much weight? What's your experience?

Deb


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Ellin Keene wrote in response to several questions:

Hi Anne et.al.;

I am sorry I've been long in responding to this. I spent yesterday in the airport trying to get to Milwaukee and finally gave up at 10 p.m..

I am fascinated with middle school kids because I ran into so many who read fluently and recognized all the words but were detached and not engaged in comprehending other than very superficially.

It was almost that they didn't know they could go deeply into the perspectives a given text offers. I also found very quickly how responsive they are when they are taught with respect for their intelligence and taught explicitly how to understand more deeply, remember longer and use what they know. I am not aware of any great data that defines success with this age group, but I certainly have ample anecdotal evidence of it!! They absolutely thrive when we teach them that in-depth intellectual inquiry is not just for some other kid.

I guess that would suggest that I don't buy the research about how much more difficult it is once kids are in middle school. The one clear exception to that is in phonics instruction. There is a clear body of evidence that suggests phonics is a language system best learned when children are in early elementary school and that it is much tougher to teach it after that and some will never internalize a grapho-phonetic system and need to learn other word identification processes.

In relation to working with colleagues, I must admit that I work with colleagues who are willing and excited and find that it spreads from there. The most recalcitrant teachers come along when their kids show them the way. A group of fourth graders in a school where I was working approached their teacher and asked with all seriousness, "Why don't we think in here this year? We liked doing that last year." Need I say more? This is a tough issue and I think co-teaching and demonstration teaching goes a long way toward solving it. We all need to see what is possible before we really tackle it in our own classrooms.

best, ellin

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Susan Fedor wrote:

Thanks to Ellin and Susan for giving me a new way to understand what it means to understand. I devoured your book with such relish and silent shouts of affirmation, chapter after chapter. I read a great deal, but until I encountered your book, I had read about many things all of which remained unconnected in my poor brain. You tied ideas and practice in such a way that these disparate ideas I have held in my head about learning and thinking and reading and writing had stayed in their own private rooms. They are now in a suite of understanding. I approach not only instruction in a new way, but see in new ways my own functioning as a reader and a writer and how my experience can serve to teach others. I'm so inspired that I'm teaching a writing lesson following a reading selection I will share....my first foray back into the classroom in too long. I am emboldened by your writing which has helped me to understand more about the process of understanding reading and writing.

Thank you.

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Ellin Keene offered some final thoughts:

Hello everyone; I've been fascinated by your discussions and am learning so much.... I wish it didn't have to stop! I just printed the book selection ideas for sixth graders (have one -- a sixth grader -- of my own --- tonight's the first middle school dance, egad!).

I noticed that the librarian (I agree, thank goodness for librarians, so many elementary teachers don't get to work with a librarian) suggested Better Than Life by Pennac. This is a truly lovely book I think all of you would enjoy so much. It underscores the importance of the approaches like those you all have had the courage to undertake.

I think there is a certain amount of courage involved in teaching for intellectual development, teaching with a complete trust that all kids will struggle for insight and be deeply affected by what they read, write and converse about. There is a rigor in your teaching too often absent from this country's classrooms -- abandoned in favor of preparing kids for never ending tests, out of fear that we won't be up to challenge of the task or perhaps just not believing kids can do it.

I am heartened to hear so many of you who have laid claim to what matters most, the intellectual development of kids in all socio-economic strata. I wish you continued courage of your convictions and am here to help if I can.

Best, ellin


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Susan Fedor described why she found "Mosaic" so powerful:

Reading this book was a transforming experience. Mosaic resonated with me like no other "professional" book I have picked up. Maybe I was at the right developmental stage.

I could have read it for fun I enjoyed it so much. There was no chore about it. I read it compulsively once I began: in restaurants, at stoplights, under the covers at night with a flashlight; it was that good.

Reading it brought a coherence to my thinking about comprehension I have never had before despite the hundreds of pages I have read and training I have experienced. What resonated so were the examples throughout the book, illustrations of a point the authors made, using different texts that I, a proficient adult reader, might actually encounter in my real reading (my reading of choice--stuff I actually read for fun and personal satisfaction-- not chore--the stuff I read because I need to as a professional to stay current).

The steps that they take, as readers, to make text meaningful are like steps I take and had taken in an intuitive rather than deliberate manner. Because I recognized my own unconscious strategies embedded in their conscious, deliberate efforts to understand text, what they explained became doubly real to me. Because I understood, really understood how I make meaning of text, I understood more clearly than ever before how to help others do the same thing in a predictable, conscious manner. Uninformed practice of good reading strategies is now informed by a coherent context, the one set forward in this book.

Further, the strategies can be applied both in reading and writing. Re-reading, In the Middle, I encountered Nancie Atwell's comment about Mosaic and how it reinforced her thinking. Know how it is when you finally understand something, the ideas reappears in other contexts and now make deeper sense than every before? That,s the way it is with me and Mosaic of Thought. Powerful pleasure, to really be able to grab something solid that has been like mental Jell-O.

I am re-reading it now as well as the web links you provided at the beginning of this chat. Thanks for putting it all together for us.

One last thought, the book IS what it attempts to teach: all the techniques the authors propose which promote understanding, they employ in helping us readers to understand their text. Maybe that is the greatest power of the book and what makes it have such meaning.

Susan F.

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Deb Bambino replied:

Susan Fedor wrote: "Powerful pleasure, to really be able to grab something solid that has been like mental Jell-O."

Wow! Thanks for a great description of the process of making meaning. Like a lot of folks in this chat, I've been trying lots of different appoaches, reading lots of material, doing everything and anything to figure out students' lack of connection or comprehension. Mosaic really pulled my thoughts together. I'm excited about moving forward with a framework instead of the loose, jello like confusion that I had been experiencing before. Hats off to Ellin Keene and all who participated in this discussion. I don't think we've seen the end of this book or these ideas. I look forward to our continued sharing on the MiddleWeb list. How many of you have ordered the book Ellin suggested? ( I Read It, But I Don't Get It!) I know I can't wait to read it...

Deb

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Trish Rubin explained her enthusiasm for "Mosaic":

I have a BA in education, a reading specialist certification, two masters degrees, and a principal's certificate. Not once in all of my preparation to work as an educator was I engaged in thinking about learning as I have been since reading Ellin's book. To quote Carole Tomlinson of ASCD it is an example of "respectful work" for teachers. I could talk about this book for months, no, years, to come. Trish

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Amy Heinsma also shared her attraction to "Mosaic":

For me, this book articulates so well the passion in reading. Too often, learning to read simply meant learning to decode. Fluent readers realize there is much more to reading than simply decoding and even comprehending. This book lays it out in simple terms with wonderful examples.

Amy

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Hope Jenkins wrote:

This message is...for all of you who have commented so thoughtfully and from the heart, shared your reactions to Mosaic, answered each other's questions, participated in this beautiful professional dialogue. This kind of dialogue is why I am a teacher. I am an elementary teacher; I was privileged to listen in to your conversation because I know Alexis Ducat and work with Trish Rubin as a staff developer.

Mosaic opened up the world of reading for me; I saw my own process and my love for reading mirrored on the page. When I heard Ellin speak, I went into overdrive. Her respect for teachers and learners, her encouragement of an intellectual life for teachers and students, for all of us as human beings, resonated with me. I couldn't let it go.

Ellin and Mosaic gave me hope for teaching kids to read with their thinking at the heart of it. I've found that kids open up and are excited when we teach them this way. Some of them too have felt that reading is more than the dry drill we have turned it into. Why, when you are on a plane or in an airport, are so many people reading? There is power in reading that we have not communicated to our students. Well, each of you has! I feel it in your words and thoughts on these pages.

At the end of each day for the last 2 weeks, I have read your postings, and I leave my office with my head and heart bursting with your words and the passion of your ideas. I've loved every minute of it. Thank you. Your willingness to dig deep into your thoughts and share them so openly is an inspiration.

Hope Jenkins

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Nancy Long wrote in response to Deb Bambino's diary entry:

Deb wrote: "I'm wondering if we don't have a particular responsibility to combat the clouding of our children's perceptions of themselves. Our culture presents a veritable deluge of negative images about our youth. Children of color are especially victimized by the media and press. Adolescence is a time of incredible self doubt without the addition of racial, cultural & gender bias. Do you think they have an accurate view of their own reflections, their own possibilities?"

Deb, I'm not sure I understand the question, but it seems that balance in the students' reading material is the key. Reading interviews of people who have overcome great hardships, prejudice, or other barriers often reveals that they were able to rise above their situation by escaping into books, and each person has a different type of book they relate to. If you are saying we should protect the kids from reading negative things about youth, you'd have to ban news publications altogether! But if the kids have positive reading alternatives, they can choose that which lifts them up.

One biggie for me is presenting positive role models (heroes, if you will). I tend to steer toward minority scientists. Right now every class gets 10 minutes a day of the biography of G. W. Carver, and they really soak it up. Even the rowdiest ones quiet down to listen. They ask probing questions, request certain parts to be read again, and stop me in the hall to ask if we are going to have our story today. Honestly, I am overwhelmed by their hunger for this man's story. Today they wrote reflective paragraphs on what we have learned about Dr. Carver's life so far. Tears almost came when I saw boys who haven't wanted to do anything all year writing a whole page, still writing when the bell rang. Can't wait to read them.

This may miss your point entierly, Deb, but I do know that many a young person has been awakened to their own possibilities, and to the reflection not of what they are now (confused, in turmoil) but of what they can become, by caring insightful teachers like you.

Nancy Long

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Linda Haskell offered her explanation for the popularity of "Mosaic":

I think why this book generates so much discussion is that it touches on what so many of us (reading teachers) agonize over. We teach the skills of reading, but kids don't read unless forced, many times. They can read but choose not to. So many say, they don't like to read.

Many of these students don't engage in their reading. This book has some ideas as to why and some possible ways to fix the problem that don't require tons of money.

The science teacher on our team couldn't believe we were having a serious discussion about this book over lunch one day this week. I think many teachers have been looking, like I am, for ways to reach those children who view reading as a chore and dislike it.

Linda

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Ellen Berg wrote about why "Mosaic" struck a chord:

For me, Mosaic articulated the real power of reading I feel as a proficient reader. I recognized all of those skills that I used, but I couldn't have spoken about them in any real way before I read the book. Mosaic brings the essential elements of comprehension into consciousness which means I now can directly teach and model those elements for my children. The mystery is finally solved!

As a professional book, Mosaic was engaging and modeled so adequately what it taught. I got a clear idea of what, exactly, the authors wanted us to do with our children, yet it wasn't preachy or dry. We learned from their modeling of the strategies! It was an excellent example of embedding theory in practice.

I also love that it goes beyond "skills" instruction. As a constructivist teacher, I love the slow build of understanding through practice and reflection that is modeled in this book. It's definitely not a *recipe* of how to teach reading. The kids and the teacher ultimately follow their own paths to create the understanding of each strategy.

I love this book. I FINALLY feel like I might be able to be an effective teacher of reading. As one other poster commented, I've taught the "skills" of reading, but I saw little evidence of students using those skills during reading. Furthermore, that skill instruction did little to help engage students in the wonder and passion of reading.

Ellen Berg

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John Norton wrote:

This message will wrap up the discussion of "Mosaic of Thought."

Thanks to each of you. And thanks to Ellin for recovering from her airport nightmare in time to bring us some final thoughts.

John


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