Turning Points 2000
and the future of middle grades reform

[A version of this interview appeared in the June 2000 Phi Delta KAPPAN magazine.]

By John Norton

In 1989 the aptly named "Turning Points" report from the Carnegie Council on Adolescent Development energized a national discussion about "one of the most fascinating and complex transitions in the life span." The influential report's wholistic approach included an examination of the role of middle grades education in the healthy intellectual and personal growth of young adolescents. The Council's concluding report, Great Transitions: Preparing Adolescents for a New Century, was published in 1998 in conjunction with an announcement from the Carnegie Corporation that it would turn its attention to other pressing issues, including teacher education reform.

This fall, Teachers College Press will publish Turning Points 2000: Educating Adolescents for the 21st Century, co-authored by Anthony W. Jackson, a former Carnegie program officer who oversaw much of the Council on Adolescent Development's work; and Gayle A. Davis, a faculty member at the University of Maryland and former project director of the Middle Grade School-State Policy Initiative.

In an interview, Jackson, now an executive with the Disney Foundation, talked about the rationale behind Turning Points 2000 and reflected on the likely future of foundation support for middle school improvement, in the wake of the Carnegie Corporation's decision to shift its attention to other priorities, and a recent announcement by the Edna McConnell Clark Foundation that it will phase out its Program for Student Achievement, which has focused entirely on middle grades reform.

What will Turning Points 2000 tell us about the issues of adolescence that we would not learn from a rereading of the original Turning Points report?

Several years ago, Gayle and I thought it would be very wise to prepare a sequel -- a more fleshed-out version of the original Turning Points report, based on the experiences of the last 10 years, both of the Carnegie initiative and the results of other foundation-sponsored initiatives and other middle grades reform work that took place over that period. In addition to those experiences, we also are basing the book on a very comprehensive review of research that has happened since the publication of the original book -- research that relates to each of the components of the Turning Points model. The book will be a much more detailed analysis of the Turning Points model of middle school reform based on the practical experiences of those who have been trying to implement the model and other middle grades reforms over the last decade.

This book is being directly solely toward school implementation issues. There will be some overlap with earlier reports on state policy, but this is going to be much more drawn from the experience of middle school practitioners and those who are in the school setting observing the work of practitioners. We focus on what it takes to make change in individual schools that will dramatically improve the achievement of young adolescents. It's a sequel to Turning Points -- a much more expanded, detailed version.

Turning Points was a very good outline of the kind of changes that needed to happen, and it was highly catalytic in its ability to raise consciousness about the needs of young adolescents and the need for reform in middle grades schools. But as a blueprint for reform, it really lacked the kind of detail folks needed as they really got into the practical work of changing schools. What we hope we have put together is a more detailed and sophisticated analysis of what it takes to make middle grades reform really happen in a way that produces high achievement for all young adolescents -- how various aspects and elements of good middle grades education work together over time to really produce the kinds of results we know are possible.

How would you describe the audience for Turning Points 2000?

We're gearing it -- our main concern is that it's written for and accessible to practitioners in schools who actually want to change their schools in a systematic way. So I guess the first audience is middle grades educators, with a ripple effect that goes out from there, including people at the district level and people who are interested in setting effective guidelines. We hope it will also be of interest to scholars and other researchers. We also hope it will be of interest to policymakers who are looking for a vision of reform -- who want to anchor policy in a clear understanding of what a good middle school really looks like and what it takes to make it happen.

My own view of a lot of policy work is that what is often missing is a clear sense of exactly the kind of school we need and what it takes to do that. We focus on the mechanics of school reform at the grassroots level, but we think the book should have information for study and for policy as well as for practical implementation.


As you look back at the impact of the first Turning Points report and the ways in which the principles and recommendations played out in the context of the school reform movement, what do you see?

There has been historically an overemphasis of the structural, organization kinds of changes and a de-emphasis or lack of emphasis on actual changes in teaching practice and the actual work of creating and implementing more powerful forms of assessment and instruction and curriculum. I think that's one of the key things we've learned: structural changes are important and necessary but they are not sufficient. What I see is the really hardest work in middle grades reform is figuring out what exactly is going to produce the kind of high achievement we want to see in kids in terms of instruction and the professional development of teachers. And then how those changes can be coupled with and supported by organizational changes.

You can't take half-measures in changing a school. You have to, perhaps not simultaneously but over time, you have to address all of the various key elements of middle grades reform, from curriculum to organization to relationships with parents to relationship with community, if you're really going to have lasting, stable reform. Because each school is a system, and like any system, if you only attack certain elements of it, the rest of the system will pull those elements back into the status quo. Things will regress to the mean. Over time, the school will naturally work to try to preserve itself in its traditional form. So the need for comprehensive, on-going, continually renewing reform is critical, with attention to all those elements of a middle grades school that make it successful. You can't go halfway -- you've got to go the whole way.

Why do you think that so many middle schools have paid more attention to the Turning Points message about support for the healthy development of adolescents and less attention to its message about the need to challenge adolescents intellectually?

From the middle grades educator's standpoint, the issues that confront them as soon as they walk in the door at the beginning of the school year are the emotional and social needs of adolescents -- trying to help them through this turbulent period. But I think what we have learned as a middle grades community is that although those issues are important and you need to focus on them, if they are the main thrust of our attention, we are way short of what needs to happen to enable those kids to -- in the fullest sense -- make the transition into older adolescence.

The transition through adolescence is not purely an emotional one; it's as much, even more, an intellectual journey. And that's the key transition that has to happen that we have not focused enough on in the past. It is a period of enormous opportunity intellectually, and kids really need to have the kind of stimulating education that is going to allow them to develop their intellects and be able to use their minds well, which in turn is going to have a tremendous effect on their capacity to negotiate the other kinds of emotional and interpersonal aspects of adolescent development. So the emphasis on adolescent needs is not misplaced, but it has perhaps been overemphasized and now needs to be brought back into balance with the need to focus on intellectual development. I think that's the lesson we're learning now and I think that's what we're trying to point out.

My sense is that there is an undercurrent in the middle grades community that recognizes this need for balance and the critical importance of intellectual as well and social and emotional growth. It's one of the touchstones of the second wave of middle grades reform. I sense much more focus on the intellectual development of kids, and much more awareness about the intensity with which they must address their own change process, and their need for support in doing that.

I'm actually pretty optimistic that we can pull these different strands of learning that we've gathered from experience and research together and have, in the new millennium, a much more targeted and balanced approach to high-quality middle grades education.

Where is philanthropy headed in regards to middle school reform?

That's an interesting question. I think one of the things that any of the philanthropies that have been involved in middle grade work have learned is that it does take a very comprehensive, systematic, and long-term effort. We've all learned that you can kind of do pieces of that systematic effort and make some success, but the real success comes from staying with a comprehensive approach. I think there's a new realization among foundations that whole-school reform is a long-term proposition that requires pretty to very intensive work in most schools, and so if you're not willing to make that kind of investment, it may not be worth doing. You're either in it for the long haul in a way that is going to provide the kind of assistance they need, or it's probably not worth doing.

Foundations have their own attention spans. So it isn't an unreasonable thing to see a board of directors, after ten years of devoting resources to a particular area, to begin to want to use resources in a different area. If some foundations that have given support traditionally decide they have to go in another direction, I hope at least those coming into the field -- both foundations and education reform groups -- will learn from this and will at least know from the outset how focus their grantmaking. I think the key word here is "intensive." All of us can learn that it is perhaps better to more narrowly define who we will work with -- to not work with as many districts or schools but have them focus their attention on a small number of grantees who can accomplish something in a reasonable amount of time and get results for kids.

More to the point, the goal should be to create some examples or models -- create some capacities that can be taken up by the systems themselves as you're working in them. You can't, obviously, indefinitely support reform efforts around the country -- there will never be enough philanthropic funds for that -- they have to be catalytic dollars. I guess I hope that if there are going to be philanthropies who invest in this work, they will all learn from our experiences and have a more targeted and intensive effort and agenda. That's the only way to get results.

During the 1990s, many foundations "ran their own experiments" when it came to supporting school reform -- developing their own principles and then funding grantees who were willing to provide "clinical trials." Do you see that continuing?

There is another route that philanthropies can take, and that would be perhaps to invest in organizations that are themselves able to mount the kind of intensive effort that is needed. For example, the Center for Collaborative Education in Boston is developing a "Turning Points" model for the New American Schools. One way a philanthropy might want to go is to invest in an organization like that that has the staff, the know-how, the products, the capability to make comprehensive reform happen in a broad number of cities and schools. The same thing might be said for the Talent Development Schools model that Doug MacIver is doing (at Johns Hopkins University). And I think there will be other models developed from some of the funds the federal government is allocating around the country for comprehensive school reform. So it may be that philanthropies want to get away from direct investments in districts and move toward organizations that are really kind of created and geared up to support comprehensive reform.

In a sense, it's a kind of a logical progression. You might consider the work that Carnegie and Clark and Lilly and Kellogg and other foundations have done as kind of spade work to generate a lot of examples, a lot of experience, a lot of things tried. And what we're now in is a kind of second stage of middle grades reform, where we are beginning to hone in on those things that really make a difference -- learning from our experience -- and beginning to recognize the kinds of organizations that are in the best position to carry this work forward.

Hopefully, Turning Points 2000 will be of some value to philanthropy as they consider what is going to be necessary in the work of the grantees you're going to support to really make achievement a reality over the long term for middle grades students. In a sense, we hope it will provide a kind of reality check about what is really required from grantees to get the kind of outcomes that will justify the dollars invested -- what will really have a high return on investment in terms of what's going to be best for kids.

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